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Will Lack of Creativity Be the Demise of the PR Industry?

By: Gini Dietrich | October 22, 2012 | 
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Have you seen that Visa commercial where the little girl asks Ray Lewis questions during a press conference, such as, “Hashbrowns or home fries” and “Do you like my dress?”?

It’s one of my favorite commercials because a) I totally want to interview an NFL player (cough, Tom Brady, cough) and ask silly questions and b) It’s about time someone have fun with these guys instead of being armchair quarterbacks.

Along the same lines, last week, Pizza Hut offered one person a lifetime supply of pizzas if, during the Presidential debate, they asked President Obama or Mitt Romney if they preferred sausage or pepperoni.

Admittedly probably not the best place for a branded question, but a pizza every week for 30 years? Who doesn’t want to win that?

OK, and let’s be real, all of the questions are vetted so it never would have made it to the televised event, but it certainly has everyone talking about something other than healthcare and women’s rights and tax returns and whether or not our President is a citizen.

Perhaps we need a little levity as we approach the elections. I still think it would have been ridiculously funny (though maybe not very smart) if President Obama had come out on stage, placed an empty chair behind the podium, and said, “Talk to that.”

But I digress.

Is All Publicity Good?

As quickly as the Pizza Hut campaign began, it ended.

Kurt Kane, their chief marketing officer said, “Some of the attention we received was not positive. So, we decided the question was better served online than in the debate itself.”

And communications professionals, including someone I admire and respect deeply – KD Paine – are up in arms.

And why shouldn’t we be? Not all publicity is good.

Sure, everyone from bloggers to Stephen Colbert are talking about it. But not in a good way.

And yet, Forbes contributor, Aaron Perlut, called the campaign “brilliant” and called for more PR pros to use creativity like this instead of executing campaigns that require,

Bullpens full of interns emailing news releases that are not, in fact, news; or calling and leaving scripted voicemails for reporters that do little more than irritate the recipient.

I don’t disagree.

Lose the Battle and the War?

He goes on to say,

I sincerely hope more practitioners take a cue from the likes of Pizza Hut, go against the grain of the typical PR playbook, and consider how the brand squarely centered itself inside of a lively debate – with millions and millions of eyeballs focused on it, providing great visibility and a healthy topping of buzz.

Otherwise, PR will continue losing these battles, and ultimately, the war.

Like Perlut, I cut my teeth on reputation management and big brand crisis communications. I also don’t lean toward PR stunts for either of those types of programs.

But losing the battle – and ultimately the war – because we don’t tend to be as creative as advertising agencies?

If we lose the war, it won’t be because we aren’t creative. It will be because we still have bullpens of interns distributing news releases and because we don’t use technology to increase the tools in our toolboxes and measure our efforts against real business goals.

Whether or not this hurts the sales at Pizza Hut is yet to be seen. But you can bet their PR chief, Doug Terfehr, knows exactly what he’s doing – creative or not.

A version of this first appeared on Ragan.

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About Gini Dietrich


Gini Dietrich is the founder and CEO of Arment Dietrich, an integrated marketing communications firm. She is the author of Spin Sucks, co-author of Marketing in the Round, and co-host of Inside PR. She also is the lead blogger at Spin Sucks and is the founder of Spin Sucks Pro.

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KenMueller
3 years 10 months ago

Again it all comes down to getting outside of our label boxes. We are no longer confined to one silo, and our jobs require creativity as we understand that we are more than PR or communications or marketing. We are all of the above.
 
And I’d pay to see you ask Tom Brady questions. What would you ask? I’m just not confident he could come up with a coherent answer.

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@KenMueller Hmmm…I would ask him things such as, “What’s it like to have two baby momma’s?” or “Do you like women who are intelligent and funny, but not necessarily a supermodel?”

KenMueller
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich You might be disappointed. I have a feeling “supermodel” is the top criteria, and “intelligent” is way down on the list…

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@KenMueller I think you might be right. 🙁

Erin F.
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich  @KenMueller Then he’s dumb. Yep, I said it.

KenMueller
3 years 10 months ago

@Erin F.  @ginidietrich When will you learn that I am ALWAYS right??

Erin F.
3 years 10 months ago

@KenMueller  @ginidietrich I don’t know…

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@KenMueller  @Erin F. Oh please. You are so cute thinking you’re always right.

KenMueller
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich  @Erin F. I think you left a period out after the word cute.

KenMueller
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich  @Erin F. And I’d like to point out that I would always choose intelligent and funny over supermodel.

Erin F.
3 years 10 months ago

I’m all for creativity, but the creative work has to make sense and be relevant to business goals. Why put all that effort into something that isn’t going to bring a good return?

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@Erin F. So what do you think about what Pizza Hut did?

Erin F.
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich The idea seemed sound, but Pizza Hut chose the wrong setting. It seems like someone would have thought about that component before going live with the idea.

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@Erin F. I’m on the fence about it. I’m so tired of all the political BS and how polarized our country is, I think it would have added some very much-needed levity to the situation.

Erin F.
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich Perhaps. I’ve stayed out of most of it, mostly because I don’t have a television. Yay! No political ads.
 
I guess I need more background on the Pizza Hut campaign before making a final decision. Who was going to be offended by the question? Matt says it was a loud, but vocal minority. It seems we pander too much to people simply because they’re louder than the rest.

relevance
relevance
3 years 10 months ago

RT @samfiorella: Will Lack of Creativity Be the Demise of the PR Industry? http://t.co/hvJ81YSU via @ginidietrich

PROCKSTAR
PROCKSTAR
3 years 10 months ago

@benjaminfloyd That’s a good question. PR has so much influence.

benjaminfloyd
benjaminfloyd
3 years 10 months ago

@PROCKSTAR yes it does! #spincity

MattLaCasse
3 years 10 months ago

I’m really not sure what’s not to like about the Pizza Hut move. I submit that if you aren’t fighting cancer or saving puppies, EVERY campaign is going to receive some kind of negative feedback. Why? Umm…just watch your Twitter or Facebook feed for 10 minutes. People LOVE to complain.
 
If we’re constantly worried about the 3 people we may upset rather than the 97 who are laughing their butts off, we’ll never reach that creative potential. To piggyback on @ginidietrich , you can be creative AND provide a relevant news angle. How do I know? Well…Pizza Hut just did it.

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@MattLaCasse I almost want to call Pizza Hut and say, “Ignore the very vocal minority!” But they took the campaign online instead of using it during last week’s campaign. It’s like Gap when they crowdsourced their logo, announced the winner, and then went back to the original logo because of the very vocal minority. Stay the course!
 
How’s the sweet potato today?

MattLaCasse
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich Couldn’t agree more. I know I’m not supposed to do that in the comments of a blog, but hey…great minds and whatnot. The whole Gap thing pissed me off beyond belief. I’m one of the few that actually liked the new logo more than the old one.
 
The sweet potato is back home in Iowa. Mom says she has plans for a sweet potato pie, some sweet potato fries, and maybe something for Thanksgiving.

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@MattLaCasse That’s a lot of sweet potato! Will you be OK eating it?

MattLaCasse
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich Have you seen pictures of me? I’m OK eating just about anything.

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@MattLaCasse LMAO!!

WendyShanahan
WendyShanahan
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich interesting

belllindsay
belllindsay
3 years 10 months ago
I’m always for the shake up rather than the safe and steady (i.e. boring). You can analyze and “market research” what Pizza Hut did to death – is it the right demographic, why bring pizza into politics, it’ll make the company look stoopid, it’s disrespectful to the POTUS (who I think would have laughed!) – but really, bottom line is you have to take some chances, and shake things up a bit sometimes. I love it (and I also love that Visa ad @ginidietrich ) . Think outside the box, rock the boat a bit, do something daring or different (but… Read more »
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@belllindsay But it can’t always be a stunt. You can’t have a shake-up every month or even every year. I like this shake-up (and think it would have been hilarious if it’d made it on during the debates), but they won’t be able to do something big again for a while.

belllindsay
belllindsay
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich Absolutely – and that’s why the shake up really works – because it’s unexpected, and comes out of left field. My point I guess is for companies to not be terrified of trying something different.

HeatherTweedy
3 years 10 months ago
I love that little girl from the Visa commercial!  It would be great to stop watching sports reporters ask about the same three plays while starting conferences with “How do you feel about the loss today?” (Though I do love when a coach goes crazy after that question).     Playing devil’s advocate: The Pizza Hut stunt felt like a tactic without a strategy.  It didn’t even help Pizza Hut stand out from other companies in its industry and at best made people hungry for pizza in general and at worst made consumers feel that Pizza Hut doesn’t respect a… Read more »
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@HeatherTweedy Mmmmmm…pizza. There were a lot of PR pros who said they didn’t respect the democratic process. But their PR guy is SUPER strategic so I’m not sure I agree they didn’t have a strategy behind it. We were just talking about the Kenneth Cole gaffe and how their sales increased after it. Like that, this is the kind of stunt you can only do once. My guess is they sold more pizzas. But they just used their one trump card.

Erin F.
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich  @HeatherTweedy I wish we could ask him.

magriebler
magriebler
3 years 10 months ago

@HeatherTweedy Well said. I was baffled by the Pizza Hut stunt. It didn’t feel original; it felt derivative. (Was I the only person who thought of “boxers and briefs?”) It made me wonder, once again, why we so often confuse creativity with being disrespectful and silly.
 
What works about the Visa commercial, on the other hand, is that it feels consistent with the brand experience. Visa can take you places; it makes dreams come true. You are so delighted for that little girl when the player praises her questions that you just want to kiss your Visa card. Score! That’s creativity.

bradmarley
3 years 10 months ago

We employ bullpens of interns to send out media releases and leave templated voicemail because it is safe.
 
We all have grand visions for creative campaigns, but the negative coverage a company like Pizza Hut receives for trying something different (albeit, misguided) causes us to retreat to the warm comfort of the traditional PR blanket.
 
The larger the company, the harder it is (in my opinion) to gain permission to go out on a creative limb.

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@bradmarley Totally agree! Business leaders are scared about the very vocal web. The thing about this (and the Gap logo mishap I mention below) is it’s always a vocal MINORITY. If you ask the majority of your customers, a) they don’t care and b) they just want a good product.

bradmarley
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich Exactly. And the rise of social media has given a voice to the minority. Your CEO might not want to invest in social, but they sure do pay attention to it.

jasonkonopinski
3 years 10 months ago

What? You didn’t want to write about Felix Baumgartner and Red Bull? <scurries away>

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@jasonkonopinski Um, no. While amazing, I don’t think it has anything to do with PR.

jasonkonopinski
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich I think it definitely raised the bar for sponsored events, so more publicity than straight PR. Red Bull was the perfect brand to do something like this

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@jasonkonopinski I’m not sure I’d even call it publicity. It’s brand/product placement and it’s paid so it’s more advertising.

barrettrossie
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich  @jasonkonopinski Have they come out with a commercial yet? Should they?

Erin F.
3 years 10 months ago

@barrettrossie  @ginidietrich  @jasonkonopinski Barrett, we should be hired by Red Bull. I had the same thought. Red Bull can replace their cartoons (often awful) with Baumgartner.

stevenmcoyle
3 years 10 months ago
I wonder if Pizza Hut was victim to something I call the “viral strategy mishap”; where a company does something creatively drastic in hopes of sparking a positive viral campaign but instead starts a negative one. One day people will learn to stop saying “We need this to go viral.”   Also, I think sometimes it’s better to stick to your guns than to retreat. Complainers are always louder than admirers. Take for instance the new Lifetime logo, which nearly everyone thought was hideous. They didn’t pull a Gap and change it back, they stuck to it. I wasn’t going to stop watching Lifetime… Read more »
demi ter haar
3 years 10 months ago

@stevenmcoyle Agree with you! A lot of company’s don’t know that a viral also can be bad for there image if it goes wrong!

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@stevenmcoyle I agree, too! If you have a clear strategy, stick to it. You can’t please everyone!

magriebler
magriebler
3 years 10 months ago

@stevenmcoyle And when will people learn that you CAN’T make something go viral? It’s not in our hands, people!

maryanneconlin
maryanneconlin
3 years 10 months ago
Seems like this is leading into a discussion of “what is PR?”  Which, with the proliferation of screens, the rise of social media and the demise of print… seems to be coming  pretty frequently these days. We have positive relationships with other agencies with whom we work on a single account more because we tend to not get too hung up on what is social media/what is promotion/what is PR. I THINK creative PR is doing something to raise the visibility of the brand – the execution might not look like a PR tactic…but the role of the PR professional… Read more »
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@maryanneconlin There was an interesting article in PR Week last week that asked seven PR firm leaders what the future of the industry looks like. What they described are the types of things we should already be doing. I have a blog post in the queue on that…too much to say, not enough days in the week!

maryanneconlin
maryanneconlin
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich Great minds think alike…I just wrote an post on it….then saw your comment http://redropesdigital.wordpress.com/2012/10/22/content-creation-curation-and-pr/…You are right – it is an exciting direction.

Josh/ http://joshuawilner.com/
3 years 10 months ago

There is a culture of fear and uncertainty that keeps many people/businesses from being willing to do more than walk between two narrow lines. No one gets fired for running ads in the NYT or WSJ, but spend that money elsewhere and unless you can demonstrate ROI you might get slapped.
 
Every now and then someone is wiling to take a risk and if their “gamble” works they receive oodles of praise.
 
It is not just PR, it is in many industries and it is worrisome.

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@Josh/ http://joshuawilner.com/ We face that in our business all the time. No one ever gets fired for hiring the big PR firm with the years of experience and a fancy office on Michigan Avenue. But hire a boutique agency and they screw up? You lose your job, too. No one gets fired if the big agency screws up. It’s frustrating when you’re in charge of biz dev.

TaraGeissinger
3 years 10 months ago

I actually liked the Pizza Hut stunt. Maybe it’s because I live in Florida and am so tired of the election and all of the ads right now. 🙂 I didn’t really see it as disrespectful. In fact, I kind of thought it might humanize both candidates to find out what type of pizza they like best! You’re right, it never would have made it into the debate anyway, but it’s still disappointing that they fell to pressure and pulled the campaign.

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@TaraGeissinger I still think Obama bringing a chair on to the stage and telling Romney to talk to that would have been hilarious. But alas…

TaraGeissinger
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich Now THAT would have been classic!

stevenmcoyle
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich  @TaraGeissinger Maybe he could bring up a binder and ask Mitt to fill it with women.

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@stevenmcoyle  @TaraGeissinger Bwahahahah!

JasKeller1
JasKeller1
3 years 10 months ago
So there are a lot of different arguments taking place in this post, and some I agree with, and some might be a little misguided.    First off, risk: Yes, it is a problem within our industry and there are a lot more campaigns out there that “play not to lose” instead of “playing to win.”    Second, a lack of creativity: Yes, there is a lack of creativity that goes into many PR campaigns out there. I wouldn’t necessarily say that all (or that many at all) are poor PR campaigns are cause by the work being executed by… Read more »
barrettrossie
3 years 10 months ago

@JasKeller1 , love your third point.
 
This may sound counterintuitive, but boundaries can be a great driver of creativity. Boundaries like (1) a strategy that hits the right emotional buttons (2) a competitor that’s has taken the more obvious approach (3) a low budget that forces you to dig deep down for ideas. 
 
In the ad agency world I used to run into creative people who wanted their assignments to be easy. One of best creative thinkers I ever ran across was Jerry Andelin, who was Hal Riney’s partner. His favorite saying was: “If it were easy, anyone could do it.”

JasKeller1
JasKeller1
3 years 10 months ago

@barrettrossie Not counter-intuitive at all! I was going to write more about the reality that PR is just hard these days… but I was already exceeding the character-count most attention spans can handle. 😉

Erin F.
3 years 10 months ago

@barrettrossie  @JasKeller1 I agree. Boundaries can drive creativity.
 
I don’t understand people who want assignments to be easy.

RebeccaTodd
3 years 10 months ago

@Erin F.  @barrettrossie  @JasKeller1 Yes to your second point, E! Challenges only please.

Erin F.
3 years 10 months ago

@RebeccaTodd  @barrettrossie  @JasKeller1 I get the feeling you chose the hard classes in school, didn’t you?

RebeccaTodd
3 years 10 months ago

@Erin F.  @barrettrossie  @JasKeller1 I took chemistry FOR FUN in university. For my English degree. I’m obnoxious that way.

JasKeller1
JasKeller1
3 years 10 months ago

@Erin F.  @RebeccaTodd  @barrettrossie  I was the kid that wouldn’t stop asking questions either… I suppose nerdom payed off. 🙂

Erin F.
3 years 10 months ago

@RebeccaTodd  @barrettrossie  @JasKeller1 Chemistry is awesome. I had to have some science credits, and I chose chemistry because I had liked the class in high school. 
 
I would hunt for the hard professors. I was obnoxious like that, too. :))

RebeccaTodd
3 years 10 months ago

@barrettrossie  @JasKeller1 Hmmm…Barrett, I’m beginning to think you had the same “objections to opportunities” sales training as I did…or maybe you are just a Pollyanna, like me.

barrettrossie
3 years 10 months ago

@RebeccaTodd  We were treated to an objection handling course at The Martin Agency. Changing objections to opportunities was the best part. That’s why no one wins political arguments with me. 
 
j/k

RebeccaTodd
3 years 10 months ago

@barrettrossie Yes- the instant I can get people to be honest about their objections is the instant I know I have them hooked. Get that zing! feeling every time. Textbook example last week, and the outcome couldn’t have been better.

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@JasKeller1 I wrote last week about the overuse of the news release and how, sometimes, it would just be better to release your news on Twitter in 140 characters. I say this for the very reason in your second point. News releases are so overly vetted and overly reviewed and edited that they’re not longer news. It makes me batty!

maryanneconlin
maryanneconlin
3 years 10 months ago

@JasKeller1 I think that risk has its place in any marketing plan. I had a boss once who told me to always have a portfolio approach to planning – some programs should be safe, some should be risky and some in between…a lot like stock investing, I think 🙂

JasKeller1
JasKeller1
3 years 10 months ago

@maryanneconlin For some reason I couldn’t “like” your post… so… “Like!”

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RebeccaTodd
3 years 10 months ago

Ahh once again I will be disagreeing with @ginidietrich and @belllindsay .  Honestly, I find the American electoral process ridiculous enough without product placement.  While I would have loved to see someone go rogue and ask a real question during the debates, encouraging people to toss away a real opportunity for a branding opportunity is really terrible. Whatever the PR strategy behind this is, in practice this is insulting, even to a Canadian. I want to say something brilliant about the commoditization of politics, but I haven’t had enough coffee.

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@RebeccaTodd  I’m so sick and tired of the election and the debate and the binders full of women that I would just love a little bit of levity. So what if the person asked it and then got to ask the real question? It would have made people laugh and the person would have gotten a lifetime supply of pizza (and gotten fat, too).

RebeccaTodd
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich I would have rather them go off script and ask something real, like tell me more about your polygamist grandpa, Mitt, or maybe what the heck is Mitt short for, anyway, Mitten? Because that’s what I have been going with.

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@RebeccaTodd But then you’d have a whole lot of people pissed off. I was raised Mormon and one of the biggest misconceptions of the religion is polygamy. Pizza – sausage or pepperoni – isn’t religious or political or anything else that can get people fired up for their beliefs.

RebeccaTodd
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich Ahh see I would like to see a little more pot-stirring. And wouldn’t it be better for Mitt to be able to honestly address the whole polygamy thing? But you know me G I am all about getting people fired up. To me, this is getting close to the coca-colonization of politics.  Tonight’s debate- brought to you by Shienhardt Wigs!

stevenmcoyle
3 years 10 months ago

@RebeccaTodd  I’ve been trying to figure what Mitt is short for forever. I need to see a birth certificated. lol

HowieG
3 years 10 months ago

@stevenmcoyle  @RebeccaTodd Mitt is short for Mittsy

Erin F.
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich  @RebeccaTodd It seems like we elect someone, then start the entire process as soon as that person has been elected. Maybe some boundaries should be exacted upon the whole thing.

JasKeller1
JasKeller1
3 years 10 months ago
@ginidietrich  I guess that was a frustration point for me with this post – There are a lot of real issues that don’t have a voice, so when a non-issue gets coverage (or meddles in an arena of real issues)… it is hard for me not to view that with some disdain.    Maybe the debates have been so devalued by politicking that “real issues” no longer have a place in presidential debates – they are now reserved for hyperbole and “fundamental beliefs”…I suppose I just wish the time presidential candidates spent in front of millions of people could be used… Read more »
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@JasKeller1 I understand that, but it’s a continuation of blog posts that are covered here every day. As much as I would love to write 4,000 words outlining an argument in every blog post, it’s just not something people will read. So we continue the discussion day after day. As to the comment about the bullpens full of interns, I took that from the Forbes article as the “reason” the PR industry might lose the battle and the war.

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@JasKeller1 I understand that, but it’s a continuation of blog posts that are covered here every day. As much as I would love to write 4,000 words outlining an argument in every blog post, it’s just not something people will read. So we continue the discussion day after day. As to the comment about the bullpens full of interns, I took that from the Forbes article as the “reason” the PR industry might lose the battle and the war.

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@JasKeller1 You’re frustrated that I wrote about an issue that derived from a PR stunt Pizza Hut pulled and that I think it might have added some levity to the debate if it had been asked?

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@JasKeller1 You’re frustrated that I wrote about the PR stunt Pizza Hut pulled? Or that they did it at all?

magriebler
magriebler
3 years 10 months ago

@RebeccaTodd  @ginidietrich  @belllindsay I must be Canadian at heart.

barrettrossie
3 years 10 months ago
I don’t know whether the Pizza Hut campaign was brilliant or a cheap stunt. I love my country and hate to see brands make a mockery made of our political process — our politicians do a good enough job of that already. But newsjacking is a time-honored marketing tradition, so… I just don’t know.    At the same time, I’d be shocked to see this hurt Pizza Hut in any way.    By the way: Here’s one of my favorite politically-incorrect commercials of all time, I never really thought about whether political exiles find it insulting. And I’m sure it… Read more »
Erin F.
3 years 10 months ago

@barrettrossie Oh my goodness. That’s awful. Funny, but awful.

RebeccaTodd
3 years 10 months ago

@Erin F.  @barrettrossie Hah nice grab! Hmmm yes is it ok for brands to mock the politics of others? Let me think…

Erin F.
3 years 10 months ago

@RebeccaTodd  @barrettrossie Only if they want to lose sales in countries that are friendly to said politics?

RebeccaTodd
3 years 10 months ago

@Erin F.  @barrettrossie I get all hung up on whether things are “right” or not.  And if I oppose Pizza Hut interfering here, would it not be hypocritical to think this is ok?

Erin F.
3 years 10 months ago

@RebeccaTodd  @barrettrossie Oh, I know. I was being sarcastic. I’m more concerned with whether something is right, too.

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@barrettrossie That. Is. Awesome.

barrettrossie
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich Since you are the Queen of Awesome, I am much pleased.

HowieG
3 years 10 months ago

@barrettrossie  @ginidietrich Queen? She is a Princess. And she sleeps in a bed with 27 mattresses to ensure a comfy nights sleep.

barrettrossie
3 years 10 months ago

I sure wish I could edit could my typos.

RebeccaTodd
3 years 10 months ago

@barrettrossie Agreed!!!

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@RebeccaTodd  @barrettrossie You can with the new Livefyre. I cannot install it, however, because Spin Sucks is complicated and fussy and won’t accept it. livefyre is working on it for us so we’ll be able to bring it here and then you can edit your comments.

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@RebeccaTodd  @barrettrossie You can with the new Livefyre. I cannot install it, however, because Spin Sucks is complicated and fussy and won’t accept it. livefyre is working on it for us so we’ll be able to bring it here and then you can edit your comments.

HowieG
3 years 10 months ago

@RebeccaTodd  @barrettrossie don’t even go there. I had this discussion with @livefyre @jmatthicks @jennalanger over a year ago. Possibly 18 months. They said if I want to edit go to Cuba. They have editing there.

Erin F.
3 years 10 months ago

@HowieG  @RebeccaTodd  @barrettrossie  @livefyre  @jmatthicks  @jennalanger …or my blog. You can edit there, and I don’t live in Cuba. Ken, however…His blog only allows you to edit for a certain amount of time, though.
 
I wondered if Spin Sucks might be more cumbersome. cc: @ginidietrich

IglesiaPresents
IglesiaPresents
3 years 10 months ago

@RebeccaAmyTodd Makes me want pizza!

RebeccaAmyTodd
RebeccaAmyTodd
3 years 10 months ago

@IglesiaPresents Indeed! I’m always up for a debate, let’s be honest…

HowieG
3 years 10 months ago

I guess the reason I never heard of this campaign is because I never heard of Pizza Hut. What do they make? Definitely not pizza. 😉 I did not see the event as negative in my book.
 
Your premise here is true. PR has to get creative. Especially today when some of message control is gone..if not a big chunk of that.

joshchandler
3 years 9 months ago

@HowieG Most people I talk to think that PR serves the purpose of facilitating a conversation, rather than being the creative force behind a marketing message. Perhaps that’s the wrong way to think, but maybe we need some clear distinction between the purpose of creative marketing and the role of PR within a business.

ginidietrich
3 years 9 months ago

@HowieG Mmmmmm…I love Pizza Hut breadsticks. Yum.

imeanwhat
imeanwhat
3 years 10 months ago

@tedcoine @ginidietrich no it’s all the mediocrity and lack of reference in the new breed. PR has become the replacement for waiters jobs.

jonbuscall
jonbuscall
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich So how do we realistically promote creativity? Inhouse or outsourced?

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kateupdates
3 years 10 months ago
Oh man wish I could have jumped into this convo sooner!   Besides the fact that if I won the pizza, I could not eat it … I think this idea is fun! Why not capitalize on current events that everyone is buzzing about? Yes, it wasn’t something other brands were doing but that’s where some of the most original and buzz-catching campaigns often come from.   I didn’t see the campaign but it sounds like it could be done tastefully (pun intended.) And after all the talk of women being uncomfortable with some of the debates (blah) because of… Read more »
joshchandler
3 years 9 months ago

@kateupdates Kate, to be honest I think the sentiment behind Pizza Hut’s idea would have been lost amongst all the hype surrounding the debates.

joshchandler
3 years 9 months ago

@kateupdates You may have noticed through your notifications that I had left a comment previously. I have since altered my position on the matter – http://fyre.it/1xAU

kateupdates
3 years 9 months ago

@joshchandler That’s good because I was wondering how the heck to reply! LOL

joshchandler
3 years 9 months ago

@kateupdates Ha. 🙂

ginidietrich
3 years 9 months ago

@kateupdates PR Newser did a blog post on this topic and asked the question I did (crediting me)…and what they concluded was we’re just too darn serious. I agree.

joshchandler
3 years 9 months ago

In my opinion, the PR playbook was torn up years ago. There is no traditional PR anymore. It’s just a lot of businesses trying to figure out how the heck the new marketing tools work.
 
I also think that Pizza Hut was an established player who had wide enough scope and reach to run with this idea. The amount of small businesses that try to capitalize on the same event such as the presidential debates often fail because they simply don’t have the reach.

kateupdates
3 years 9 months ago

@joshchandler I agree with THIS response 😉

ginidietrich
3 years 9 months ago

@joshchandler I wish that were true. But there are many, many, many organizations still wanting traditional PR and not wanting to take the “risk” to participate online in any way. We turn away at least five prospects a month because all they want a PR firm to do is media relations. When we explain that’s not what we do, they go on to find someone who does.

joshchandler
3 years 9 months ago

@ginidietrich Well, let’s hope that change happens quickly. We can’t afford to be thinking about traditional media relations anymore.

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