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		<title>By: Billable Hours at PR Firms &#124; The Fight Against Destructive Spin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billable Hours at PR Firms &#124; The Fight Against Destructive Spin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] one year I blogged about this topic (see it here, but read the comments; that&#8217;s where you&#8217;ll find the good stuff) and I hate to say [...]</description>
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		<title>By: A Second Helping Of Agency Compensation (plus Dessert!)</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Second Helping Of Agency Compensation (plus Dessert!)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 00:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] different kind of dissenting comment from Nat Slavin, consultant on law firm client relationships. See his comment on this Spin Sucks blog post: “The PR firm, ad agency, consultant, etc., is not the sales force. They are not commissioned [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] different kind of dissenting comment from Nat Slavin, consultant on law firm client relationships. See his comment on this Spin Sucks blog post: “The PR firm, ad agency, consultant, etc., is not the sales force. They are not commissioned [...]</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 15:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Noble Fenderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noble Fenderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 15:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Another Indicator of the Changing Agency Landscape&#8230; &#124; March Communications</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Indicator of the Changing Agency Landscape&#8230; &#124; March Communications</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] thoughts on the topic from my colleague Liz Caradonna here.      coverage, media, PR    [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Fight Against Destructive Spin &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Value-Based Fees: What Are You Going to Do?</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Fight Against Destructive Spin &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Value-Based Fees: What Are You Going to Do?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 19:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  The Fight Against Destructive SpinWritten by the team at Arment Dietrich       &#171; Previous Post Value-Based Agency Compensation Models Next Post &#187; Disease spreading across the country (and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Value is a matter of perception. &#124; Standing Out From The Crowd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Value is a matter of perception. &#124; Standing Out From The Crowd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 16:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] about the value of a service from both the agency and the client&#8217;s perspectives (see the post that originated the discussion and the follow-up post, both by @ginidietrich from Arment Dietrich [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about the value of a service from both the agency and the client&#8217;s perspectives (see the post that originated the discussion and the follow-up post, both by @ginidietrich from Arment Dietrich [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 19:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My agency is in the midst of going &quot;all in&quot; with respect to pay for performance/pay for value compensation models. The journey has been ugly but we&#039;re making progress by thinking about marketing success from a project management perspective.

Why are projects seldom successful? Projects fail for six simple reasons:

1) Objectives are not clear
2) No measurement in place
3) Plans are too big/optimistic, scope creep
4) No accountability
5) Execution stinks
6) Static plan, dynamic world

To define value, we look at each tactic individually. For example, a monthly email newsletter. We then have a conversation with the client each month about what they value. In this case it might be 5% new subscriber acquisition each month, readership/open rates greater than 10%, etc.

In the case of PR, value is created by a combination of # of placements, referring links, traffic and other factors. Every client will value these things differently.

We ask the client to force rank/weight all their tactics each month. The sum of the force ranked tactics creates a percentile performance grade for the month.

This methodology is by no means perfect - in some cases it can be very subjective. The tracking spreadsheet is always undergoing revisions and updates - many driven by our clients. However, the biggest value for us is the &quot;discussion&quot; and shared accountability.

Ben Bradley
MaconRaine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My agency is in the midst of going &#8220;all in&#8221; with respect to pay for performance/pay for value compensation models. The journey has been ugly but we&#8217;re making progress by thinking about marketing success from a project management perspective.</p>
<p>Why are projects seldom successful? Projects fail for six simple reasons:</p>
<p>1) Objectives are not clear<br />
2) No measurement in place<br />
3) Plans are too big/optimistic, scope creep<br />
4) No accountability<br />
5) Execution stinks<br />
6) Static plan, dynamic world</p>
<p>To define value, we look at each tactic individually. For example, a monthly email newsletter. We then have a conversation with the client each month about what they value. In this case it might be 5% new subscriber acquisition each month, readership/open rates greater than 10%, etc.</p>
<p>In the case of PR, value is created by a combination of # of placements, referring links, traffic and other factors. Every client will value these things differently.</p>
<p>We ask the client to force rank/weight all their tactics each month. The sum of the force ranked tactics creates a percentile performance grade for the month.</p>
<p>This methodology is by no means perfect &#8211; in some cases it can be very subjective. The tracking spreadsheet is always undergoing revisions and updates &#8211; many driven by our clients. However, the biggest value for us is the &#8220;discussion&#8221; and shared accountability.</p>
<p>Ben Bradley<br />
MaconRaine</p>
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		<title>By: Another Indicator of the Changing Agency Landscape&#8230; &#171; PR Nonsense: High-tech global PR and other detritus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Indicator of the Changing Agency Landscape&#8230; &#171; PR Nonsense: High-tech global PR and other detritus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 15:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] More thoughts on the topic from my colleague Liz Caradonna here. [...]</description>
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