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Apr 20
2011
Gini Dietrich

Social Media Q&A

A few months ago, Jack Monson, who is the programming chair (and good friend) of the Chicago chapter of PRSA, asked me to do something that hadn’t yet been done at one of their monthly lunches: Take questions from the audience the entire hour.

At the time I said, “Sure!” without really thinking it through. All I thought was, “Great! I won’t have to prepare a speech two weeks before we launch Spin Sucks Pro.”

But taking questions from an audience, for an entire hour, is pretty nerve-wracking because you have NO idea what is coming and you have zero time to prepare. It’s completely on the fly and, I learned yesterday, that you have to have a whole bunch of confidence (which began to diminish the closer to 12:30 we got) in order to do that.

Afterwards, I was scrolling through the Twitter feed to see what people tweeted the most, in order to give you some of the key points. I don’t know what we did before Twitter. I guess we didn’t blog about it the next day!

The Q&A

Q: There are many different agencies a business can hire, and they all seem to be converging on this concept of digital marketing and social media. When should a business hire a PR agency to handle digital marketing or social media rather than a more specialized digital agency that specializes in the digital space?

A: If you’re looking to hire an agency that focuses solely on social media, you won’t have an agency to work with in two years. My reasoning being that social media is a TOOL and agencies should not be specializing in tools. Social media should be a part of what they offer, including traditional communication, some basic search, some marketing communication, and reputation management.

Q: How do I know how much I can promote myself online?

A: We have the 80/20 rule: Eighty percent of what we distribute online is about someone else (their blog posts, their videos, their content, etc.) and only 20 percent is about us. We liken this to going to a networking event and meeting, what Lisa Gerber calls, Type OO (output only). Just like you’re searching for someone else to talk to when Type OO is chatting your ear off about how great they are, the same thing happens online. The companies who use the tools only to promote themselves will fail.

Q: How many tweets should you send in a day?

A: I don’t think there is a one-size fits all for how many tweets you send in a day. For instance, I schedule my tweets to go out once an hour, from 7 a.m. until 6 p.m., every day. Those tweets fit the 80/20 rule. Then, when I’m on Twitter, I’m engaging, I’m reading, and I’m having conversations. So I could easily send 200 tweets in a day. Or more.

Q: What’s the difference between social media for consumer or B2B brands?

A: Consumer brands are much easier to promote, using the social tools, because the audience is everyone. There is a lot of talk about it not working for B2B brands, which is baloney. If you know where your customer is participating online (and they are participating online), you can know which online tools to use to reach them. Free tools such as Google Alerts and Socialmention will give you a good understanding of where they are participating. Then you can move to paid tools such as Engage 121, Spiral16, Radian6 for monitoring where your prospects are and what they’re saying and Flowtown (which is my favorite), Gist, and Xobni for your current customers habits.

Q: There was an article a couple of months ago about blogs trending downwards and seemingly going away. What do you think about that?

I think blogs are trending downwards because a whole bunch of people jumped on the blogging bandwagon when it was the shiny, new penny. But they are hard work. Super hard work. And people don’t have the time or patience to put into a blog what it takes to have some semblance of success. For instance, between Lisa and me, we spend a good 40 hours or more on Spin Sucks a week. It’s a full-time job and it’s not something you an say, “Oh, I don’t really want to do that today” if you’ve built the expectation that you ARE going to blog every day. So I don’t think blogs are trending downwards because they’re going out of style, so to speak. Rather, it’s because they take a lot of care to maintain.

Q: How often should you blog?

If I’d been asked that question three years ago, I would have said three times a week, definitively. But now I think it’s more about consistency. If you are going to blog every Monday at 9 a.m., but darn, you’d better blog every Monday at 9 a.m. Just set the expectation and deliver…consistently.

There were a ton more questions, but those are the ones I can remember from reading the Twitter stream. And, I’m getting dangerously close to a blog the length that Ingrid Abboud writes so I’ll stop now.

How would you have answered these questions? Do my answers lead to more questions? The comments are yours.

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@nataliezehr @TJStouder @kassiringler @JefferyFrye @Shellbelle1972 @ChristyMay - http://www.spinsucks.com/social-media/social-media-qa/

Great #SM Q & A: http://www.spinsucks.com/social-media/social-media-qa/

shanerhyne 18 pts

Social media is a tool and agencies should not be specializing in tools. (Amen)

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ginidietrich 5382 pts

deleted_91832_Sean McGinnis I wish you could have, too. Do you not agree?

HowieSPM 2350 pts

ginidietrich deleted_91832_Sean McGinnis Sean you weren't there? Well the Feds were listening via the Patriot Act and NSA technologies because we all know Gini is an insurgent and insurgents must be monitored.....using Radian 6 of course.

wabbitoid 166 pts

Social media is only a tool, and it's all about how it works for both you and your customers. Everyone uses social media differently so you have to try things out to see what works. I think the "newsticker" model has shown to be far more resilient in the experiments I run on my own and I generally recommend that to my clients as a starting point - they can always get chattier later.

As for blogging, I agree that consistency is the key (I've been MWF for 4 solid years now, never a miss!). However, quality is also very important. You have to have something to say. The rest of it, like length / multimedia / focus is stunningly less important. I find that interesting. People want to get to know you, as a person, even more than anything else so it's awfully hard to farm out, too.

wabbitoid 166 pts

Whoops! Accidentally over-edited. When I say "newsticker" I'm talking about twitter. Hard to edit well in these li'l boxes when your vision is not what it used to be! Sorry.

ginidietrich 5382 pts

wabbitoid What?! You think quality is important?? Puh-lease.

OK. You're right. Never mind.

HowieSPM 2350 pts

ginidietrich wabbitoid Social Media should not have the word Media in it's descriptive name. Its a Social Communication Technology Platform. But can just just imagine someone saying 'I run a SCTP Agency?'

wabbitoid 166 pts

HowieSPM ginidietrich I agree, as always. The word "media" has been so thoroughly over-used it has pretty much lost all meaning. Hell, most people use it as if it is singular. I would very much like to start pushing a more descriptive term. Your suggestion is not a bad start.

But do not get me started on the mis-use of "technology". Ug. :-)

Soulati | B2B Social Media Marketing 824 pts

What? Where's the answer on defining PR, PRSA? But, seriously, if this post gets what yesterdays does in comments, uhm, I'll be under water like the rest of the region. Thanks for taking my question to Sweet Home Chicago! (Interesting questions, too, when you think about it...peoples' experience in social marketing is broad and still learning.)

ginidietrich 5382 pts

Soulati | B2B Social Media Marketing Oh it was asked and answered! I am going to send you a video clip of it so you can actually see, with your own eyes, what I say about it. Thanks for ruining the surprise. Hrumph.

Soulati | B2B Social Media Marketing 824 pts

ginidietrich You're welcome. That's me, the spoiler. I always told my kid sister where her Easter basket was. (kidding)

ginidietrich 5382 pts

Soulati | B2B Social Media Marketing My younger brother used to do that!

HowieSPM 2350 pts

Soulati | B2B Social Media Marketing ginidietrich You know about the reason Chocolate Easter Bunnies exist right? It was an evil plot to convert non-christians because when I was in grade school they told me I could only eat Matzoh and that the Chocolate Bunnies were for the special kids.I then said well what about the Cadbury Eggs? They said 'Those are eggs laid by Chocolate Easter Bunnies and if you can't eat the bunny you can't eat their eggs'

So you know what I did? I used to sneak and steak Jayme's sister's easter basket.

true Story.

Soulati | B2B Social Media Marketing 824 pts

I know every single household has Easter basket stealers and the Jewish kids missed out on, gasp, yet more candy and presents. Who the heck started this egg thing anyway? HowieSPM ginidietrich

MimiMeredith 190 pts

Does it look to anyone else like Gini is about to co-host Masterpiece Theater from this set?

Gini--you continue to give me more to bookmark! I am not sure when you sleep, but I am grateful for the wisdom you abundantly share.

MimiMeredith 190 pts

Hey! Where did my Livefyre points go? Just when I was starting to feel like one of the cool kids...

ginidietrich 5382 pts

MimiMeredith How many did you have?! I see you have 18. Did you have more than that?!? My mom would LOVE it if I co-hosted Masterpiece Theater. That chair was so big, though. I had to sit on the edge because my feet wouldn't touch the ground.

MimiMeredith 190 pts

ginidietrich I am such a child! I had zero show up when I first posted. I have 18 now. Um...you have 871. I'm never, ever mentioning it again.

ginidietrich 5382 pts

MimiMeredith Well, I've been using it since September. So I kind of got a head start.

JohnnyRusso 17 pts

Thanks for sharing this Gini. I was wondering, what questions from the talk were most stressful to answer? Did any of your answers ruffle some feather in the audience? And what questions were you surprised to hear?

I know, sorry, more questions...just what you need :)

ginidietrich 5382 pts

JohnnyRusso The most stressful? Hmmm... I think it was the one about hiring a social media agency, just because people couldn't believe I answered it the way I did. But I truly believe if you specialize in the tools, you won't be in business very long. That answer really ruffled some feathers, too.

Questions most surprised to hear? Lots of questions around video and their effectiveness. I felt like I had to convince people of it.

DebraCaplick 9 pts

It was a fantastic session - you had nothing to worry about.

ginidietrich 5382 pts

DebraCaplick You got to comment here! YAY!!!

jeanniecw 106 pts

You know I love any post that refers to Type OO.

PattiRoseKnight 52 pts

I love a CEO who confidently uses the word "baloney" in her blog. Love it.

Krista 94 pts

Great insights as always, Gini-- this is why you are one of my PR-blogging heroes :)

I agree with your sentiment about caution of agencies that specialize in social media as a sole means of communication. I would also add that companies should take note if an agency that is making social media recommendations is even on social media itself. Unlike the smart folks at Arment Dietrich, there are many out there who are not practicing what they preach.

ginidietrich 5382 pts

Krista I agree that if you aren't using the tools, you really don't know how effective they are. martinwaxman thornley and I talked about that on this week's Inside PR. You wouldn't hire a PR firm who has never written a news release. Why would you hire a PR firm that has never blogged?

KenMueller 1773 pts

ginidietrich Krista martinwaxman thornley Can i like this comment three or four times? I happen to specialize in Social Media, but also work in other areas as well, and have other people on call who specialize in areas that aren't mine. And I would never tell a client that social media is all they should do. it's part of the overall, integrated package.

ginidietrich 5382 pts

KenMueller I was wondering where you've been!

KenMueller 1773 pts

ginidietrich awww. you missed me? i spent my morning just blindly RTing people.

rachaelseda 295 pts

Great questions! I enjoyed reading all your answers. I didn't think about doing something like this as a blog post when I spoke at my college a couple weeks ago... so thanks for the idea now! P.S. Wow 40 hours a week...that is full time. But you're right blogging does take time so you have to enjoy it and make time for it.

ginidietrich 5382 pts

rachaelseda You totally should create a blog post from your college speaking engagement!

HowieSPM 2350 pts

ginidietrich rachaelseda Rachael we all know lisagerber does 39 hours and Gini just proof reads for an hour while having tea with Jack Bauer. But its the end result that counts and it seems it works. As you can tell the Font is simply amazing!

IsmaelAlterian 5 pts

I think it's absolutely essential for both B2C and B2B companies to actively listen. For B2Cs you can learn about their customers experiences while B2Bs can find potential customers. Either way you can learn a lot from what people are saying about your company, what your competitors are up to and where your industry is going.

I would have had a tough time answering the last question,"How often should you blog?", because I don't practice always practice what I preach. It should be often but you need to need to make sure you add a POV that is both unique and adds value to the conversation.

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www.socialmedia.alterian.com

KDillabough 1088 pts

Wow Gini, you're good on the fly! Excellent answers to really good questions.

I know I've spent way more time engaging and connecting, to the detriment of my blog. I also know how much time it takes to craft the content of a blog, so I want to be sure that I'm prepared to commit that time, and be in writing-mode....even when I'm not;)

The question that come to mind as a lead-out of the blogging question: Do you think that there will be some other forum/platform that will "take the place" of a blog, or do you think that there will be natural attrition, and those who blog well and consistently will be, as it were, the continued cream of the crop? Thx for all Gini: you know what I mean:)

ginidietrich 5382 pts

KDillabough I don't know...I think there will always be a place for daily self-publishing in some form, like we have with blogging. Posterous and other tools have tried to make blogging more accessible to those who don't want to take the time, but it seems to be floundering now, as well.

Blogging isn't for everyone and there are definitely tools that are more time efficient and more useful for some. For me, I don't get to work IN the business anymore, so this is my outlet. Without it, I'd only deal with HR and legal issues and payroll and cash flow projections and (as you well know) that's not a fun life.

KDillabough 1088 pts

ginidietrich Love the outlet, and woohoo to the fun!

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