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Aug 24
2011
Gini Dietrich

The Secret Sauce of Online Community Building

Everyone always wants to know what is the secret sauce to building a community. Well, I’ll tell you. It’s simple, really.

Stroke people’s egos.

Seriously. That’s it.

You’ve heard this from me before; it’s not a new concept. But it truly is the secret sauce.

Starting from Scratch

Some people disagree with me. Mitch Joel, for instance, thinks blog comments are nice, but the real juice is in the content.

I agree. But I also think if you aren’t giving people a reason to comment, they’re not going to. If you don’t stroke their egos by visiting the places where they participate online, they’re not going to come to you. And this is very important, especially when you’re starting out.

But how do you go about doing such a thing?

Three years ago I began blogging for the sheer purpose of figuring it out so we could counsel clients on the pros, cons, and how to make a blog effective.

And something interesting happened along the way. I built a community.

It actually wasn’t on purpose. You see, I had 128 visitors the first month of blogging. No one commented; not even my mom.

But I began reading other blogs, and commenting on them. Soon, those bloggers came to my blog and commented on my content.

Well, let’s be real. It took me 10 months to figure that out. But when I figured that out, our traffic jumped, oh, nearly four thousand percent. Yes, four thousand percent.

All I was doing? Stroking other people’s egos by commenting on their blogs and being smart about what I said.

The funny thing is that, when you comment consistently, the blogger wants to know who you are. So they check you out. And, if they like what they see, they comment, subscribe, and share.

Building Community

But, of course, for this double type A personality, that wasn’t enough. I really wanted more than traffic and comments.

I wanted community.

Back to Mitch Joel…I read a blog post he wrote about community. He said (I’m paraphrasing) that you don’t have a community until people begin talking to one another without your participation. Until then, it’s just comments.

And he’s right. You know you’ve hit community mecca when people come to your site to talk to one another, with your content as the conversation starter.

One of the things we did to really help build community was install Livefyre as our commenting platform. You see, it invites people to come back over and over and over again.

But it’s not the end all, be all. It’s only a tool. It’s in how you use it that makes community building successful.

The consistent content has to drive conversation. Create a polarizing opinion and watch people talk to one another (professionally, of course) about the topic.

Additional Things to Consider

So we’ve talked about stroking people’s egos, having good and consistent content, creating a conversation, installing Livefyre, and providing some banter.

A few additional things you should consider:

  1. Know what your vision is for the blog. It’s easy to forget when you read other blogs and you’re moved so much by what the bloggers have written that you want to write something similar. Unless it matches your vision, don’t do it.
  2. Have goals, just like you do for everything else you do in business. We started out with silly goals, such as “beat Danny Brown in the AdAge rankings,” which keeps me, particularly, motivated, but doesn’t do much for the business. Know what you’re trying to achieve and don’t take your eye off the ball.
  3. Your content should always have a call-to-action to it. This was a really hard lesson for me to learn. When I figured that out, this last year, our traffic grew 281 percent. Our community grew. And you know what else? Our sales increased because we gave people a reason to buy from us.

Three years of blogging. Nearly a 30,000 percent increase in traffic since the beginning. Ten blog posts per week (four from guests). A highly engaged community. And increased sales.

All because I believe if you stroke other people’s egos, your benefits far outweigh the cons.

Thanks to PowerPointNinja for the image. I always think, two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun when I think about community building.

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dougricesmbiz 59 pts

Gini, I could not agree more! I blogged for 6 months before I started commenting and sharing on the blogs of others. The pageviews on my own blog skyrocketed. Giving is always the greatest strategy. As I've evolved, I've realized that I get more pleasure commenting on others' blogs and talking about the great work others have down than I do expressing my own opinions on my blog. My posts are mostly about others and the recognition goes along way. People simply don't care about you until you've demonstrated that you care about them. Why should they?

Reson8_NZ 6 pts

I really liked the advice - simple, straightforward and obviously very effective. The striking thing about this post is the clear evidence of community that you find when reading through the comments. I cant help but think that this is greatly facilitated by having livefyre commenting. I'm going to ditch Disqus :)

Ambolino 6 pts

I'm with ya! Going to ditch Disqus and put in livefyre.

janwong 30 pts

I don't know about you but I feel that many out there are trying to build their own community simply because they know it works - but they don't know how. Little do they know that it is the simplest strategy that counts. A vision, a goal and a call-to-action. Thanks for sharing :)

KieraPedley 5 pts

You know, this is one of the simplest strategies, but probably the one that rings true the most. You'd do the same in any offline business - you'd network, connect with influencers, gain their trust, stroke their egos. You'd give your customers a reason to buy, and ask for the sale!You'd also ask them to come back!Nice article, some great insights!

Ambolino 6 pts

Trying to build community as we speak! Thanks for the great article, some really hit the nail on the head for me. Like the article on a day in the life of the COO and Creating an editorial calendar, genius!! I had stared my editorial calendar but this took it to a whole new level.

Thanks to John Falchetto for introducing me to your blog and to you! Have a wonderful weekend!

landscapeforms 5 pts

Excellent article. Having just launched a corporate blog these are important reminders of how to build and foster community. Thanks!

timsoulo 11 pts

237 comments?!?!?!? This is truly impressive!!! at the moment I'm using Facebook comments at my blog (http://bloggerjet.com), but something makes me want to change them to Livefyre :) I will study the difference and write a post about it :)

ginidietrich 5382 pts moderator

timsoulo The only thing I don't like about Facebook comments is you don't own them. I've tried all of the platforms and keep coming back to Livefyre. I'd love to hear what you think.

jennalanger 713 pts moderator

ginidietrichtimsoulo Hey Tim, let us know if you have any questions about Livefyre, we're happy to provide any info for your post.

timsoulo 11 pts

jennalanger wow! cool! :) you can be sure I'll ask you a few questions for my post as soon as I do a switch :)

ExpatDoctorMom 115 pts

Thanks Gini! I was just figuring this out (same as you 10 months into my blog) when you posted! Saw it with Twitter. I wasn't really following back. Ok, was a little but was not really working on or in the blog the past 6-8 weeks. So now that I am back on track I said what the heck, I am going to follow back for awhile and see if I like the other person's tweets. It is working. As is responding to community comments on posts. I have connected with some great people by STROKING EGOS!

Ok, ok, ok, I will have to switch to livefyre before that guest posting becomes available... jennalanger any videos on how to sign up I can insert for my readers?... I am serious most of the comments (aside from johnfalchetto et. al) come from those who are not on the blogosphere and I still think will refrain from commenting but I could be wrong. Will give it a try!

cheers,Rajka

John Falchetto 765 pts

ExpatDoctorMom Hi Rajka, signing up is easy, you are prompted by LF and then enter your name and email. No different than WP normal commenting or Disqus.jennalanger

ExpatDoctorMom 115 pts

Thanks John. Still thinking about those who don't like to sign up for anything... John Falchetto jennalanger

John Falchetto 765 pts

ExpatDoctorMom Then they probably won't email you either and are they really your clients?jennalanger

ginidietrich 5382 pts moderator

John FalchettoExpatDoctorMomjennalanger Jenna and I just talked about this the other day. I don't want people on here who won't sign up. Sure, they can create a fake account, but at least they're creating an account. My feeling is that if they're allowed to guest post, we'll have a lot more trolls. And THAT is not in our plan.

jennalanger 713 pts moderator

ginidietrichJohn FalchettoExpatDoctorMom While I agree with Gini here, we will be adding the guest commenting function soon. As far as videos go, we don't have any at the moment but we can make some to share soon!

jennalanger 713 pts moderator

"But it’s not the end all, be all. It’s only a tool. It’s in how you use it that makes community building successful." <--- Golden.

I feel like we just had this conversation in person when we were sitting in your office. Wait a second...I met you by commenting on this blog, interacting with you and your community, and creating real relationships where we actually meet in person and enjoyed each other's company! That's surely thanks to livefyre and the Interwebs, right? ;)

The Internet gives us the ability to connect far and wide. But it's not about the tools. It's how you use them.

ginidietrich 5382 pts moderator

jennalanger It's FOR SURE about how you use the tools so you can meet awesome people. And meeting you is definitely due to Livefyre, which I'm very, very grateful for.

NasimKaregar 5 pts

Yes, you might get traction but are they people in the industry (other bloggers) or are you getting a wider audience?

Erin F. 682 pts

NasimKaregar I think the growth of an audience has a direct correlation to building a community. Every person who is a part of that community - no matter how new he or she is to it - has a circle of influence. As that person shares content with the people in that circle, those people visit the original source, thereby widening the source's audience. Those are my initial thoughts; I may have to mull your question some more.

ginidietrich 5382 pts moderator

NasimKaregar They're both. For instance, I spoke to a group on Tuesday and half of them already read the blog. I'd say a quarter of the other half do now, too. And they're our target customers. Sure, we have other bloggers on here, which I love, and not all of them are our customers. But I'd venture to guess 80 percent of our readers are our prospects.

3HatsComm 805 pts

IIRC I was one of your first regular commenters years ago, it's been quite a ride. What matters most are the goals, not just for the blog but what the blog does to help meet the business goals (and the last piece of my own marketing puzzle). I don't know my stats/metrics but know I've had an increase in readers (clicks), RTs, some comments and that's because of one thing: engagement. I think it's more than the value or wit I try to offer, more than anything else. Be it a comment - sometimes stroking nary an ego - or a clever RT, or a linkback discussing a post, being engaged with others has helped develop a nice community. The pros have outweighed the cons, haven't had a single felon approach me for biz. FWIW, I second-guess myself on the pun but am leaving it in there. :)

ginidietrich 5382 pts moderator

3HatsComm LOL!! I'm glad you left it in because it left me scratching my head. You have to look at your stats. That's what partially motivates me. I can tell you what kind of conversion we have on everything we do ... and what kind of conversion we expect when Spin Sucks Pro comes back out of private beta. It drives everything.

3HatsComm 805 pts

ginidietrich Thanks to you I get the PostRank emails and I've put the GA in the WP dashboard. I do look at the stats, just not daily or as much as I should.

lauraclick 164 pts

What is that thing my mom always said? People don't care how much you know until they know how much you care. (though this probably needs to be attributed to someone).

Anyway, that point definitely applies here. You're the queen of community, Gini. Though, there are plenty of others - markwschaefer , DannyBrown and thesaleslion are all great examples. I've actually become friends with people "IRL" that I met through Mark's blog. Pretty crazy, yet, incredibly awesome. It's amazing what happens when you build a community. And, you're a living example of that.

The only problem is, like you mention in other comments, when you run out of time. Like you, commenting on blogs is the first thing to go when I get super busy. It's a lot of fun, but it's also a lot of work!

Great post!

Erin F. 682 pts

HowieSPM It's all about the marketing. :)

3HatsComm 805 pts

ginidietrichHowieSPMErin F. Thought it was the shoes.

Erin F. 682 pts

3HatsCommginidietrichHowieSPM Well, if we're leaving McDonald's, of course it's the shoes.

DannyBrown 2769 pts

Erin F.3HatsCommginidietrichHowieSPM If it's anything, it's HP Fruity

Erin F. 682 pts

DannyBrown3HatsCommginidietrichHowieSPM I suppose that is a possibility.

SocialMediaDDS 531 pts

I love this post. Okay, so I love most of your posts. But this one is genius because it is SO simple and yet, apparently, so elusive. Just as there is no secret to the secret sauce recipe ( for heaven's sake...it's mayonnaise, ketchup and pickle relish...secret...pffffft) there is no secret to building a community...it IS all about stroking egos. We are, after all, an egotistical being and we work best when we are told how awesome we are. The real secret is in HOW you stroke the ego. And you, my friend, are a genius at knowing just how to get your community all feeling that warm fuzzy love. You are sincere, conversational and humorous. You make it your job to "know" enough about your community members to keep it personal. You keep your community engaged on the various social media platforms so that the conversations are ongoing and, well, pretty much everywhere. It's like we are all on the old telephone "party lines" (yes, go ahead, razz me...I just about GAVE away my age ;-) ) In my dental practice I have always (and I mean always) written down something important and personal about each of my patients in my records so that at each visit, I can "wow" them with remembering that their third cousin on their Mother's side once removed had an appendectomy 12 years ago. But you know what? THEY LOVED THAT I REMEMBERED. and that love turned into loyalty to me and my practice. I really do know the difference between disingenuous ego stroking and genuine ego stroking that stems from gratitude and THAT is what should be strived for. After all, I am SO TOTALLY filled with gratitude when someone comments on my blog or FB page or Twitter that, when I show my appreciation and make them feel good about themselves, I am being very sincere. Most of us are in the customer service business in one way or another and, when I was a 15 year old working at McDonalds (you deserve a break today...and yes...McDonalds DID exist when I was 15) my first boss taught me that the customer is ALWAYS right...and you know what? HE was right!

Erin F. 682 pts

SocialMediaDDS McDonald's also existed when I was fifteen (heehee), and one of my first "real" jobs was at one. Unfortunately, my McDonald's experience taught me more about what not to do when it came to treating people right. I emerged relatively unscathed from the experience, though, and earned some wonderful tales to boot.

ginidietrich 5382 pts moderator

SocialMediaDDS You know what? They DO love that you remember. That's all I'm talking about here - pay attention, listen, make note and bring it up in conversation. That's the secret sauce.

But I disagree with one thing. The customer is not always right. Our clients are wrong. A lot. But they like that we're not afraid to tell them so and why.

SocialMediaDDS 531 pts

ginidietrichSocialMediaDDS You are right...I get that...in reality the customer is, in fact, not always right. But part of the secret of the secret sauce is getting the customer to see things your way so, in the end, the perception is that they are right. There might be slight differences in our industries...first and foremost I am respectful of every one of my patients, I have generated sincere loyalty, I always listen to them, and then I present options. And I listen again. And if I hear the patient heading for the least favorable option, I create more value for the best option. I don't ever tell the patient that they are wrong. When I see that they are heading in the wrong direction, I gently take their proverbial hand and help them to see what I am seeing and then...they are right!! ;-) And happy!!

SocialMediaDDS 531 pts

ginidietrich ooooo....re-reading...I did NOT mean to imply that in your industry that you are not respectful of your clients....I KNOW that you are...I apologize for how that came out...

ginidietrich 5382 pts moderator

SocialMediaDDS Oh I didn't take it that way at all! I do it the same way you do, though I'd certainly like to tell some of them they're wrong sometimes. :)

Totally separate note: I had a client ask me today if I'm on Twitter. When I said yes, he asked me how many followers I have. When I told him, he gasped. I said, "I'm kind of a big deal. You didn't know that?"

SocialMediaDDS 531 pts

ginidietrich Ha ha ...if he has any doubt at all, you should have referred him to this blog....You are more than "kind of" a big deal ;-)

Erin F. 682 pts

ginidietrichSocialMediaDDS Those are some of the words I was trying to find in order to leave a legitimate comment instead of piggybacking off other people's comments. The words and I are having words today, I'm afraid.

SocialMediaDDS 531 pts

Erin F.ginidietrich ha ha...I like that...your words and you are having words...boy is THAT the story of my life ;-) Just remember Erin F. , your piggybacking today will be someone else's piggybacking off of YOUR comment tomorrow. ;-)

Erin F. 682 pts

SocialMediaDDSginidietrich I thought I should say something witty if I couldn't say anything original. :)

TheJackB 1526 pts

People remember how you make them feel so stroking them isn't a bad way to go about it. There is something to be said for commenting on other blogs for the sole purpose of helping the score keepers feel like they are being treated fairly.

Every now and then I receive a comment or email from someone who complains that they visit my blog but I never visit theirs.

If you blog about blogging it is a guarantee that other bloggers will comment on your posts.

DannyBrown 2769 pts

TheJackB Mind you, if you get someone that doesn't know how to stroke, the feeling is anything but good. ;-)

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ginidietrich It's really not a "secret" what's in the sauce. It's mayo, ketchup, relish, etc. (Just teasing you Gini)

ginidietrich
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delwilliams HAHAHA! And it's sooo good.

delwilliams
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ginidietrich What? ketchup? Uh, nope

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