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Jul 04
2011
Gini Dietrich

What the Heck Is Google+?

I’ve spent the past four days in Google+, trying to figure out if it’s a Facebook killer, a Twitter killer, or just one more social network we have to use.

I can say with certainty it’s none of the above, but I haven’t yet figured out what the heck it is. Problem is, it’ll be hard to do so until a good number of my friends are in there and using it. As John Falchetto said, “We’re just the crash test dummies” right now.

I don’t think it’s a tool everyone will use. It’s doubtful it’ll have the same 50+ year old user like Facebook has, mostly because it’s linked to a Gmail account and Chrome, one more thing the Baby Boomers have to get.

Robert Scoble invited 1,000 of his friends during the weekend so he’d have enough mass to figure it out. Jay Baer thinks there are business applications (I don’t agree…yet). Chris Brogan has 10 reasons he thinks it will be a Facebook and Twitter killer. Jason Falls thinks it is a Facebook competitor and some of his readers hope he’s right just to see something different and/or better.

Joe Thornley did a test post the other day with Shel Holtz. Shel asked a question, Joe answered it, and tagged me.

Deb Dobson and I elated in the fact that Alberto Contador didn’t win the first stage of the Tour de France.

Todd Lyden posted a link to an interview I did (the ensuing comments were about my big head and fun stuff like that, which you don’t really need to see). He thinks it’s a Twitter killer.

Daniel Agee noted that not only do the email notifications go to spam (so check your spam folder), but that we’re sending unsolicited emails to the people we invite. I guess that’s why they’re going to spam, huh?

And then there are lots of invites I can accept, hide, or block, which gives me some privacy that Twitter does not.

All-in-all it looks and feels much like Facebook, which should make the Facebook haters happy (cough, Howie Goldfarb, cough).

It has only been four days so I’ll be back in 30 days to give you an educated opinion.

Until then, put this in your pipe and smoke it. With the exception of Deb and me, all of the posts, comments, and blog posts about the tool are from men. Is it that men are better early adopters than women? Or is it that women just don’t see the need for one more social network?

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NancyM. 6 pts

I don't think ant social network will be able to replace twitter because twitter has blog like features. Those who crave privacy should not be on twitter or should not reveal their true identity. I see google plus as a facebook competitor. I don;t know whether it will be able to replace it. I sure hope so because I am not a facebook fan.

bhas 17 pts

When I joined Google+ I saw an avalanche of notifications in my inbox. Got rid of them from the settings and everything was well.

I haven't spent a lot of time on Google+, to be honest and the only major thing that I did was to add people I knew to circles. I think Google+ needs to work out on their profile section some more- for example, when are they going to give us custom URLs that can be different from gmail IDs.

As of yesterday Google+ has an invite button on the lower right of the homepage, so everybody should be able to get in.

Regarding Google+ and business, Google says that it is working on new features and would delete profiles of brands that are not a part of their testing group. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2011/07...

ginidietrich 4668 pts moderator

bhas I'm actually a fan of it now. I would love to see them connect their apps (such as Reader), but I'm pretty happy with how it's going so far.

erbilacx 5 pts

Can someone send me an invite, need to get on this! FB is shit! - erbilacx@gmail.com

ginidietrich 4668 pts moderator

erbilacx I sent you one.

ginidietrich 4668 pts moderator

jono.smith I know! I really want it to work with my Reader. Badly.

JGoldsborough 238 pts

Haven't jumped in to try Google+ yet. Really not all that interested. Have enough on my hands with Facebook (which it looks exactly like), Twitter and blog reading/writing. If it catches on enough and enough people integrate it into their lives, we'll know and I'll head out there then. For now, it's not even at Quora levels yet, IMO. But keeping a watchful eye...

ginidietrich 4668 pts

JGoldsborough I'll let you know if it's something you have to get quickly interested in.

ginidietrich 4668 pts moderator

JGoldsborough OK. It's time. You want an invite?

ExtremelyAvg 295 pts

It sounds like most of the people following this thread have done a better job of learning about G+. I'm trying to figure out how to invite a friend (a woman...sssshhh...don't tell). Is it possible to send out invites? How do I do it? Do I need a secret handshake or decoder ring?

ginidietrich 4668 pts

ExtremelyAvg You can't send invites yet.

marianne.worley 131 pts

ExtremelyAvg I added several friends and family members to my circles using their email addresses. Then, I simply shared something with them, and a few hours later, they were able to join too.

ginidietrich 4668 pts moderator

marianne.worley ExtremelyAvg Brian, are you in? If not, I'll send you an invite.

IamDez 6 pts

and yet I'm happy when I start seeing people NOT posting about + on + and start using it like they use other services. Not sure how many posts I've muted that have to do with +. Weirdly, I don't mind the conversation about + when it's on twitter.

ginidietrich 4668 pts

IamDez That's funny! I'm going to test posting the blog there and see what it does for traffic. I sure would love to get Twitter out of the #3 spot.

John Falchetto 753 pts

It is a boys club. Every invite I sent to guys worked and the ones I sent to girls, well they can't get in.

Obviously you need a Google profile so they can tell which gender you are.

Perhaps Google thinks they can have a Gentlemen Only Ladies Forbidden club...not sure what the logic behind this is.

ginidietrich 4668 pts

John Falchetto LOL! They can use imagery such as "Girlz Not Allowed."

JGoldsborough 238 pts

ginidietrich John Falchetto Only if they have a sign painted in red letters with the Z in GirlZ flipped backward :).

NancyD68 661 pts

John Falchetto Hey! This sounds like the "He-Man Woman Haters Club" from the Little Rascals!

Lori 1560 pts

John Falchetto This is strange John because every time I try to open the emailed invite, my Outlook freezes! When I tried to open it on my iPod, I couldn't get to the page. What's up with that?

ginidietrich 4668 pts

Lori John Falchetto HAHAHAHAHA! LOL!

Lori 1560 pts

ginidietrich John Falchetto You won't believe this (I don't) but the second invite you sent, John, did the SAME THING. It's like Outlook doesn't want to open it. I get to that email and it won't show me a preview and then if I insist, the hourglass comes. I stuck with it this time and got to the page to find invitations are closed ;o LOL

Didn't want you to think I was ignoring you! It's the strangest thing!

ginidietrich 4668 pts moderator

Lori Did you get in?

Lori 1560 pts

ginidietrich don't think so. It keeps freezing my outlook. But I am getting email from JF and Gplus. I don't have time to figure this all out right now. I'm still not using Triberr well enough, just getting comfy with Twitter, I practically ignore FB and I'm not sure why I've done LinkedIn. Gonna have to think more about this Gini. How are YOU finding time for all this!?!?!

ginidietrich 4668 pts moderator

Lori Well, it's part of my job to stay ahead of new technologies and figure out the applications. If I were just doing it for personal use or as a nice-to-have, I wouldn't make the time.

Jane | Problogging Success 44 pts

Well well, it has been only 2 days for me and I am already liking it a lot. I guess I will be dumping the rotten FB; but I will need my friends and connections to have the same thought. Otherwise I won't be effectively using it. If they stick to FB, I have got only a less number with me.

Anyway, anything that overcomes the privacy issues that the poor FB couldn't handle is very very welcome to me.

Initially I too thought that it was going to be "just another" social network and a sharing button. But it seems that I am wrong.

ginidietrich 4668 pts

Jane | Problogging Success The only thing I don't like (it's growing on me) right now is that random people are adding me to their circles (I guess like lists on Twitter?), in my home stream, I can see people I'm not following, and my noise ratio (i.e. emails) just increased considerably.

lauraclick 118 pts

I'd love to weigh in on my thoughts on Google Plus, but since I STILL don't have access, I don't have an opinion...yet. I do think there is some potential here from the business standpoint (again based on my speculation). After all, Hangouts could be a good way for mobile businesses to connect teams for free (it seems you can have more people than Skype does) or use Sparks to share information among teams. If they roll this out to Google Apps users, this could really catch on with the business sector.

As for your comment about women, did you see this article about the disparity of invites for men vs. women? http://blogs.forbes.com/quentinhardy/2011/06/30/se...

Perhaps the reason you aren't seeing more articles from women about Google Plus is because we still don't have access! That point aside, I think women, in general, like to take time to really assess and understand something instead of being the first to weigh in and predict the trend. I could be wrong (and certainly this is a huge generalization), but I think that's why there aren't more reviews from women at this point. What do you think, Gini?

ginidietrich 4668 pts

lauraclick LOL!! It's bugging the crap out of me that I can't invite my friends. First they open it. Then they close it. ARGH! And NO! I did not see that article. Headed there next.

I've been playing more in-depth today. There is some value in the Circles because you can click on your work Circle, for instance, and see ONLY those posts. It's not as cluttered as FB.

A few issues: I can't search. The emails keep going to spam, which means I can't set up a rule so they stop hitting my inbox. The noise is gigantic already (100 emails yesterday, alone). If I'm in my Reader, I can share to Google Buzz and it shows it goes to Plus, but it's nowhere to be found. You can't reply directly to people. The invites suck.

OK. Lots more cons than pros. We'll see...

lauraclick 118 pts

ginidietrich Interesting. The videos make it look all shiny and fun. And I certainly can imagine some good ways to use some of the tools, but without trying it out, it's hard to know.

Shiny and fun is good, but if the practical application of it sucks, it won't catch on. It will be interesting to see what happens in the coming weeks.

And yes, as for the male/female disparity of it all, it's pretty disheartening. I guess there aren't enough women with a large social graph to qualify for it at this point....which then gets into bigger issues altogether. ;)

ginidietrich 4668 pts

lauraclick I WILL FIGHT FOR ALL WOMEN! This irritates me to no end.

margieclayman 449 pts

ginidietrich lauraclick What's really interesting about the gender gap with Google+ is that it seems women, more than men, get upset when you throw out there that this is happening. I am not sure if people think that the issue is being raised just to sour the party for everyone or what, but to me, it's symptomatic of, as you said Laura, much bigger problems. Why are there only young male engineers at Google? Why did Robert Scoble note that there are so few women in the tech sector that publications are writing about it? Why are there so few women that he felt comfortable writing a "yo momma" post to an audience he assumed was predominantly male?

These are all very disconcerting to me, and Google+ is just an opportunity to say, "Um, hey y'all...I think think this is going on."

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AdhamEtoom
AdhamEtoom

byron_fernandez As John Falchetto said, “We’re just the crash test dummies” , Go and figure it out, you will love the idea ginidietrich

byron_fernandez
byron_fernandez

AdhamEtoom johnfalchetto ginidietrich Absolutely...was my favorite part, too

ginidietrich
ginidietrich

royjwells Were you hanging out on spinsucks this morning?

royjwells
royjwells

ginidietrich I was catching up and could not think of a better place to start :)

ginidietrich
ginidietrich

royjwells I tend to agree with you!

ginidietrich
ginidietrich

karlrectanus I still can't invite anyone into G+, but as soon as I can, you're on the list!

PyxisHeather
PyxisHeather

TomPick @ginidietrich: "What the heck is Google+? http://t.co/s6Gc2AB" Couldn't agree more!

kcunning
kcunning

ssmirnov Crap. Is this a call for me to blog about Google+? Man...

ssmirnov
ssmirnov

kcunning Yes! No pressure, but females got to represent. ;)

mentormarketing
mentormarketing

DebWeinstein G+ is YAST (YET ANOTHER SOCIAL TOOL) #UsGuys

CAMBAInc
CAMBAInc

johnhaydon We always enjoy your resources. You omitted the "+" in your "What the heck..." tweet. Just FYI.

johnhaydon
johnhaydon

CAMBAInc Thanks!

byron_fernandez
byron_fernandez

ginidietrich extremelyavg You're my hero Gini. Like Brad Pitt in #BurnafterReading

ginidietrich
ginidietrich

merylkevans Still testing H2Os. LOL! I had to say that out loud to get it.

merylkevans
merylkevans

ginidietrich Glad you like. I had to doublecheck it myself before hitting "Send."

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