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I Hate PR People: The Rules of Pitching Bloggers and Media

By: Gini Dietrich | February 11, 2013 | 
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I hate PR people.

I can say that because I am one, but also because those of you who do blogger and media relations disappoint me.

Greatly.

It’s rare these days for me to go out with friends without hearing a story of how a PR person didn’t do their research or prepare their client for an interview before a blogger or “social media influencer” was approached.

In fact, it’s become a game to see who can tell me the worst story they’ve had of late. Their ultimate goal is to hear me yell, “I hate PR people!”

Unfortunately, it’s a refrain both friends and my Arment Dietrich team hear a lot.

The Auto Show

Take the Auto Show, for instance. A handful of social media influencers were invited as media to a dinner and the opening without an understanding of why they were there. From my purview, it looks like the PR people went to the Social Media Club website, downloaded a list of their former and current board members, and invited those people.

No research. No discussion about why each was invited. No review of whether or not they have blogs and if those blogs fit the client’s needs. No expectations set. No client preparation for the interviews. Nothing.

Not only did the bloggers/influencers not understand why they were there (though it sounds like they  had a blast…and free dinner), the clients didn’t know who each of them were and were not prepared to answer specific questions about the blogger’s expertise or topic.

Event PR

I get it. I do. Your job is to get as many interviews during the show as you can. No one said they had to be good interviews or make sense for the client. As long as the interviews happened and your client was busy talking to many bloggers or journalists, the event is a perceived success.

Even better if all of those people write something, but I know you can’t guarantee that they will, so you don’t.

But it’s not just events. It’s daily pitching that is a disaster, too.

I know we’ve talked about this before and I also realize most of you who read this blog are not the offenders.

Perhaps you’ll either forward this to a friend or they’ll find it through search (but that also means they know they’re doing something wrong and want to fix it, which is a huuuuuge leap).

The Rules of Pitching

I’ve put together a list of seven things you must do when pitching a blogger or journalist, no matter if it’s for an event or a story you want us to cover.

  1. The online media directories, such as Cision and Vocus, are a starting point. They help you create lists easily and target effectively, but the services do not do the research for you.
  2. Do your freaking research. I get an email at least five times every day that has nothing to do with anything we cover here. One of my favorites of late? Someone wrote an article on Super Bowl advertising, sent it to hundreds of people in the “to” line (didn’t even BCC everyone) and invited all of us to run it. I guess that PR pro has never heard of Google Panda or duplicate content.
  3. Go online. It used to be that we would get out the big, green Bacon’s books, copy a list of people, and then either subscribe to the magazines and newspapers or go to the library and check them out to do research. I remember how exciting it was when everything went online. No more hours of research. But no one uses the Internet. Every, single blog has an “about” page, which typically includes what they write about and how to pitch them. READ THAT.
  4. Stop the spam. I swear if I get one more email that doesn’t have an unsubscribe button, the poor PR pro on the other end is going to have the wrath of hundreds of poor email pitches built up over time.
  5. Stop emailing me multiple times. If I don’t respond, I am not interested. You forwarding your previous email to me, to show me how many times you’ve sent it to me without response is not charming or enduring. I get hundreds of emails a day. If I want to do something with yours, you will hear from me or Lindsay Bell. If it’s not well-researched and the pitch isn’t relevant to us, I will delete it without responding. Don’t contact me again.
  6. If I tell you no, don’t contact Lindsay. And vice versa. Sometimes I’ll tell you no because the story isn’t interesting to us or because you want it to run tomorrow and we don’t have space for it. Lindsay has this blog running like a machine. Think of it as a trade magazine. We are a good six weeks out with our blog schedule. Unless it’s how Beyonce’s PR people royally screwed up, we’re not going to push something to make room for your five tips on search engine optimization. So don’t go running to Lindsay to beg her to run it, after I told you no.
  7. For the love of all things great, don’t call me out on Twitter for not responding to your email. My not responding is me being nice. If you get a response from me, either I’m interested or I’m fed up and you are the straw that broke the camel’s back. I’m much nicer than some of my peers. Some will email you and shame you…which is hilarious to all of us that are BCC’d, but not hilarious to you.
As Mitch Joel always says, “If the pitch is relevant to me, it works 100 percent of the time.” Wouldn’t you rather follow the steps above, create a really relevant pitch, send it to only 20 people and have all of them run something instead of sending the same, exact pitch to 2,000 people and have no one run it?

P.S. Everyone wish Lindsay a very happy birthday!

About Gini Dietrich


Gini Dietrich is the founder and CEO of Arment Dietrich, an integrated marketing communications firm. She is the author of Spin Sucks, co-author of Marketing in the Round, and co-host of Inside PR. She also is the lead blogger at Spin Sucks and is the founder of Spin Sucks Pro.

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338 responses to “I Hate PR People: The Rules of Pitching Bloggers and Media”

  1. HayleyToothill says:

    @benjohnston429 @spinsucks Not all PRs are this bad (but lots of them are)!

    • ginidietrich says:

      @HayleyToothill No, not all of them are, but 99.9% of the pitches I receive are…the others are people who build relationships first.

  2. HughAnderson says:

    Oooh, punchy start to the week, I like it. What being a year older does to someone 🙂 Happy birthday Lindsay and you (belatedly).

  3. ginidietrich says:

    @jesslaw Thanks Jess!

  4. belllindsay says:

    I consider this post to be my birthday present. Thank you SO MUCH for writing it.
     
    Here’s a tip: always remember the 5 Ws – who, what, where, when and why. Before you pitch – think them through – they may not all fit, but surely one or two of them will help you focus and clarify if you’re barking up the wrong tree or not.

  5. amabaie says:

    Just one question.  Why would a PR email have an unsubscribe button?  One can on unsubscribe form something if one is subscribed on a list somewhere.  A PR pitch is not supposed to involve any subscription to any list.

    • ginidietrich says:

      @amabaie The problem is many, many pitches are mass mailings. And they’re coming unsolicited most of the time. So they should be created in a software that provides an unsubscribe button. Otherwise I have to email you to say, “Take me off your list” and then you argue with me about why (not you, specifically).  Mass pitches shouldn’t be sent to begin with, but when they are, use Constant Contact or MailChimp and provide an unsubscribe button.

      • EdenSpodek says:

        @ginidietrich  @amabaie I don’t consider myself a PR person but I do blogger outreach. I don’t use a mass mail program but the when I initially reach out to someone on behalf of a client I let them know they can ask me not to contact them about *this* again, etc.

        • amabaie says:

          @EdenSpodek  @ginidietrich Maybe I’m naive, but I assume that any time I enter into a conversation with someone else, as soon as one person says they are not interested, the other person won’t be a bum and keep talking.

      • amabaie says:

        @ginidietrich Ah, that is the problem.  If they are created in a software program that just inserts a name and email address, then mass mailed, they ARE spam and it is not an “unsubscribe” button that is needed but a disconnect from the Internet.

  6. allenmireles says:

    Happy Birthday @belllindsay (may your day be filled with unicorns and rainbows and your very favorite beer!). @ginidietrich , well done. Needed to be said and hopefully to be heard.

  7. KenMueller says:

    I’m gonna use Words With Friends as my new approach to pitches. I figure if you play with me, you can’t turn me down.

  8. Have to love the Twitter approach, since you didn’t respond anywhere else I am going to stand outside your cyberoffice and scream at you.

    • ginidietrich says:

      @Joshua Wilner/A Writer Writes It happens all the time to me. Do they do that to you, too?

      • EdenSpodek says:

        @ginidietrich  @Joshua Wilner/A Writer Writes Calling someone out on Twitter has to be one of the worst things I’ve seen/heard. It makes the tweeter look like a jerk and the recipient uncomfortable. Is there a word for them, like paparazzi only for Twitter?

  9. lauraclick says:

    This is one of those things where you need to treat people like you want to be treated. It’s not hard. If you don’t want to receive spam, mass emails, irrelevant pitches or be pestered incessantly, why would the blogger or reporter you’re trying pitch?! Think, people!

    • ginidietrich says:

      @lauraclick I think the problem is most aren’t using social media or blogging personally so they don’t really understand it. They’re just going through the motions, collecting their paychecks, and going home, where they really want to be. How many PRSA events have journalists talking about how to pitch them? And NO ONE LISTENS.

  10. jeanniecw says:

    I’m starting to get random pitches via the web site. Me. I’m not in PR. I don’t write product reviews. It’s silly.

    • ginidietrich says:

      @jeanniecw I would blow my top. You should start responding with links to blog posts like this. Actually, *I* might do that.

      • ecokaren says:

        @ginidietrich You just put down everything I think of when I read the brainless pitches in my inbox. Brilliant. I’m making a canned response with this link. Thanks.

        • EdenSpodek says:

          @ecokaren  @ginidietrich I have a canned response and it still doesn’t help. I only blogged once in 2012 and I received pitches daily. Granted I still had 12K visits/month but it was pretty obvious they hadn’t read my blog first.

  11. lauraclick says:

    Oh, and happy birthday, @belllindsay ! Hope it is a good one! 
     
    You guys practically have a week-long celebration with you and @ginidietrich having back-to-back birthdays!

  12. TonyBennett says:

    I hate superheroes…. but I LOVED this post. You were at your sarcastic, ranting best and I ate up every word of it. I’ve always maintained that pitching is an art, not a science, but I would highly recommend integrating your scientific formulas.
    Oh and happy birthday you hammerhead you

  13. Harriettftf6dn says:

    @jodykoehler http://t.co/McfapAnD

  14. ElissaFreeman says:

    “Do your freaking research”….LOL x 100! That is all….

  15. missfish says:

    @elissapr @spinsucks Best line: “If the pitch is relevant to me, it works 100 percent of the time.” #TRUTH

  16. ryancox says:

    “I don’t like your pitch, but if I did, I’d choose Dos Equis. Stay thirsty my friend.” <—-If I got pitched, this is the email I’d respond with. The thing I don’t get about PR people (I’m not one) is that it makes sense to me that a good 5 pitches would net more than a poor 10. And the ratio is > for the smaller good than the < bad.

  17. ClayMorgan says:

    One of the worst parts of my job is dealing with PR pitches. It is also one of the best parts of my job because occasionally we do get an awesome story that just nails it from us.
     
    Here’s what’s funny/sad/ironic all wrapped up in one: I’ve learned it isn’t always the PR person, but the entire agency.  I’ve had enough dealings with enough people at certain specific agencies that I just don’t answer the phone or open their emails anymore. And this is after I’ve explained (often more than once) what I’m looking for.
     
    Then there are the others – I can’t move fast enough to answer the phone.
     
    The irony is that with today’s slimmed down newsrooms, a good PR person is in a position to be a hero and obtain significant coverage… if they’re smart about it.

  18. ladylaff says:

    I’ve been working in PR for 22 years and part of the problem is that the hardest part of our job – pitching – is always left to junior people who may be smart but lack the industry experience, business experience, life experience and emotional intelligence at that stage of their careers to develop an intelligent proposal. Senior people to ensure that the infractions laid out in this blog never happen. I have read and taken seriously a lot of these types of blog / rants and even recently took a course from an experienced business/tech journalist on how to write better pitches. One piece of advice he gave to ensure a very high success rate was to spend at least 2 hours researching each one. I have found that is about the right amount of time, especially if you’re trying to pitch something speculatively that’s not in response to a listed opportunity and ensure that you have the resources available to really follow the idea through. However after two hours of obvious labour tailoring a pitch to an individual with an offer of exclusive content, I do need to know definitively whether or not it has been accepted or if I should go back to the drawing board and tailor it to another publication. I don’t want to offer another publication the same exclusive content only to get an e-mail from a journalist a week later saying “yes, I’d like to do something with that.” At the same time, I can’t give everyone a week to respond or nothing will get done.  Journalists and bloggers are busy, so I would recommend developing some kind of code system to reject well-crafted pitches that only takes a second, like ‘NI’ for not interested.

  19. EdenSpodek says:

    Why do so many intelligent people lack common sense when it comes to blogger relations?

  20. I want to send this to every client that we work with.  That way when they can finally understand why it takes time to create a perfect press list, but it’s worth it!  I’m with @ladylaff , too often junior employees end up creating lists and pitching and they simply don’t know how to do it right.  It ends up being a cycle as those kids think “I can’t wait until I move up and don’t have to pitch anymore.” 
     
    I can’t even believe that people call you out on Twitter.  Do they think that you’re going to feel such immense shame for ignoring them that you’ll immediately move their piece to the top of the list?!  Perhaps with a follow-up video apology complete with sack cloth.  Holy Smokes.

    • ginidietrich says:

      @HeatherTweedy  You’re exactly right…media relations is ALWAYS delegated to junior-level staff. It’s how you cut your teeth. What gets me is when I get a terribly researched pitch from a VP. That’s when I go ballistic.
       
      I JUST got called out on Twitter on Thursday. I should have screen grabbed it. I responded with something so sickeningly nice, it almost made me puke.

  21. mylefttom says:

    Happy birthday Lindsay!
     
    And this reminded me of a time when I was schooled by a CEO, who insisted that I create and pitch a release about our adding a bunch of cubicles (actually just rearranging a few and using some spare parts) to the office. Despite a full year of pitching releases about major business partnerships, new software launches, and huge customer wins, this stupid release about cubicles won by far the most favor with local and regional media.
     
    I have yet to figure that one out.

  22. dwaynealicie says:

    Happy birthday  @belllindsay !
     
    I know this post was born out of much, much pain, but I hope it helps to know that the jabs dropped my jaw and made me laugh like a crazy person on BART this morning.
     
    It’s shocking how many of these stories I hear, especially since PR is so competitive and the number one rule I have ever learned about pitching is to do your research and make it relevant …. if you haven’t been able to strike up and maintain a relationship beforehand!
     
    Here’s a question — what does it take for a PR person to recover from such a mistake?

    • belllindsay says:

      @dwaynealicie Owning up to it and apologizing. I think that goes a long way to make up for anything. And thanks! 😀

    • ginidietrich says:

      @dwaynealicie  I would have loved to see you laughing like a crazy person on BART this morning. LOL!!
       
      I don’t know if they can ever recover…I suppose if they build a relationship with a journalist and then admit the wrongdoing, they can recover. For instance, if you pitched me on something and it was just wrong, I would tell you why, but I wouldn’t hold it against you.
       
      It’s the people who, after my writing this today, sent me three emails about the same topic who can’t recover.

      • dwaynealicie says:

        @ginidietrich Laughing like a crazy person is just one of my talents. I live for meta-laughter!
         
        I may have to borrow the simple genius of “my not responding is me being nice” sometime.
         
        And I see … the people who really need to learn these lessons aren’t listening; they’re oblivious to the fact that they are The Problem. This seems to be a recurring theme in life! I am 100% on board with putting the perps on blast.

  23. coffeewithjulie says:

    Well, I’ve found the perfect content for the “Dear PR people” page on my blog! 🙂

  24. GosiaAntkowski says:

    Happy birthday Lindsay!
     
    Great post Gini. I’m in the same boat as you – a PR person but also a blogger. I see horrendous pitches. Pitches that have nothing to do with my blog, or that have a perhaps just a smidgen of information that might be of interest to me (maybe at most a tweet), but don’t warrant a full blog post. 
     
    I think the other thing to note in the rules of pitching is to share your information about bloggers/media with your colleagues (if you work at an agency). If they are making the same mistakes, it just makes the whole company look bad.

    • ginidietrich says:

      @GosiaAntkowski When I get pitches that make no sense for the blog, but it’s from a friend, I always offer to do something like a tweet or Facebook update on our business page. It sounds like you od the same?

  25. jdogglederman says:

    @LisaPetrilli @ginidietrich great article. I always say make your pitch relevant, entertaining, and resonating.

  26. ryancox says:

    Why not start a public call-out ‘sheet’ @ginidietrich ? You could amass a list, and other professionals (you trust) could add people to the list. If PR pro’s/companies were smart, they’d do everything they could to stay *OFF* that list, because it’s a Internet-facing call out sheet that their bosses (or a good boss) wouldn’t want to see them or their companies name on. 
     
    Or has that been attempted and unsuccessful?

    • ginidietrich says:

      @ryancox We’ve talked about it before, but it’s not my thing. I don’t want to call people out. It feels mean-spirited to me. I’d rather teach and mentor…even if it means it takes longer to get through their heads.

  27. momtrends says:

    Great tips.

  28. LouHoffman says:

    Love the “Rules of Pitching.”
     
    One more variable to throw into the mix is called the client.
     
    I think David Ogilvy had a line to the effect that “clients get the advertising they deserve,” meaning if they micro manage process they get mediocre ads and if they let the pros do their job they get great stuff.
     
    You could apply the same concept to PR.
     
    Don’t get me wrong. Nothing excuses the damning anecdotes you shared in your post.
     
    But an ignorant client can definitely cause the wrong gravitational pull. We just went through a situation at CES in which the client only cared about one thing, 40 interviews. That’s what he promised the Board and that’s what the Agency needed to deliver. Crazy. Not one word about generating coverage and cultivating relationships with the right influencers.

  29. magriebler says:

    I enjoy a good sports analogy. So when you think about pitching and baseball, you realize that a successful pitcher can not only visualize his target (home plate) but knows his audience (in this case, the batter). He literally designs his pitch for the person standing in front of him. He wants the guy to whiff, of course and a PR professional would prefer a home run, but the concept is the same.
     
    So whether you’re aiming for a blogger or a batter, you need to have a clear target in mind and customize your delivery for each individual. Otherwise, it’s not really a pitch at all. It’s a hot mess.

  30. MacLeanHeather says:

    I agree with your commentary Gini.  It comes don to lazy/sloppy PR work.  People are looking for shortcuts and making other PR people look bad in the process.  In this case one ( or a few bad apples) are spoiling it for the rest of us.

  31. magriebler says:

    I almost forgot! Happy birthday, Lindsay!

  32. spinchick says:

    Great post Gini. I guess you’re not interested in the story about my earlobe. I should stop emailing you about it. And Tweeting. And LinkedIning (?). But it IS a nice earlobe….and it can help so many.  🙂 Have a great week!

  33. JodiEchakowitz says:

    In addition to getting PR folks to stop being lazy and do their research long before they hit the send button, more of them also need to learn how to push back on their clients and start getting them to think quality not quantity.

  34. gadgetgreg says:

    @JodiEchakowitz @SpinSucks I get some that email me 5 times; others ignore my requests because I’m not in the US. Some actually do it right

  35. gadgetgreg says:

    @JodiEchakowitz @SpinSucks One was so clever, I actually wrote about the pitch. #pr
    http://t.co/PBZHRGwp

  36. gadgetgreg says:

    I hear you! As a freelancer, i write on various subjects, buts mostly about gadgets and consumer technology.  I get some firms that email me 5 times or more times; others ignore me because I’m not in the US. In fact on one occasion, I ended up calling the cellphone listed in the email and got that person in their car. I was told that yes, they did get my emails & voicemail but reiterated their clients are in the US.  Then she said. “If you really wanted to get a hold of me, you’d be persistent; you would and you did!”  Wait, who is trying to pitch who? Blog readership has no geographic boundaries. Must have been a new concept to her.  
     
    On other hand, I did have another company actually go out of their way to help connect me with their Canadian counterpart who could help me.
     
    Recently I did get a pitch that really piqued my attention. The subject line was:
    “Tis the season to be single & selfish – treat yourself with the perfect gift this Valentine’s Day” 
    I thought it  was so clever, I actually wrote about the pitch itself. http://blogs.canoe.ca/canoetech/contest/be-selfish-for-valentines-day-win-yourself-a-motorola-atrix-hd/ …

  37. gvoakes says:

    @AmyVernon @ginidietrich #2 was hilarious.

  38. LeslieMcLellan says:

    Awesome post Gini! It’s bookmarked and ready to share (in a very nice, constructive way) with those who don’t do their homework!!

  39. Slimfairview says:

    @Aujefferies Love the sinner, hate the sin. Everything is “media.” From the title of the books we read, to the ad on the side of a bus.

  40. Nikki Little says:

    With the enormous amounts of blog posts and articles that exist about how PR pros do pitching/relationship building wrong and how they SHOULD be doing it, you would think this problem would have ceased over the last year or two. But, it seems like it has stayed pretty consistent.
     
    I simply don’t understand WHY. Who is to blame? Partly the PR person, but what about the boss or manager? These PR pros must be getting poor guidance from somewhere. It infuriates me (as I know it does to many of us in this industry) that we are still having these same conversations.
     
    That’s why I’m so passionate about initiatives like Help a PR Pro Out (HAPPO). I feel like we can’t complain about the problem unless we’re doing something to provide education on the topic (like you do in this post). I just don’t know what it will take to make these issues go away!

    • ginidietrich says:

      @Nikki Little That’s the problem … the people who should be reading the blog posts, don’t. They likely don’t know they’re doing anything wrong. I met a young lady the other night who told me she worked for a woman whose bad pitch I used in blog post a couple of years ago. She told me, before I did that, they couldn’t get the boss to see how bad her media relations skills were and it took my blog post to get it in her head. I was kind of mortified I called the person out specifically, but I guess it helped the people who worked for her.

  41. stevenmcoyle says:

    Happy Birthday Lindsay!!!
     
    Great post Gini, sounds like you really needed to vent about this. I’m trying to get my director is understand you can’t write a press release like a graduate thesis paper and then email it to your entire contact list. I can completely relate to the “no research” part of this post.

  42. Cision NA says:

    Ah, we always love ‘reminder’ posts 🙂 This serves as a great read for novice and veterans alike. We’ll be sending this out on Twitter as a gentle reminder that in the case of pitching, slow and steady (and researched!) wins the race. 
     
    Hope all is well! And happy birthday to Lindsay!
    Best,
    Lisa

    • ginidietrich says:

      @Cision NA Thanks, Lisa! You guys serve as a great starting point…but it’s not meant to do all of the work necessary.

      • Cision NA says:

        @ginidietrich Yes, we work best when paired with a PR pro’s knowledge/research of the subject and can team to be a power couple if used well 🙂 We do offer lengthy profiles on a lot of journalists that list their preferences, topic coverage, etc., but it takes time to read those notes as well.
         
        Either way, great tips – we’re thankful to pass them on! Here’s to the betterment of the industry 🙂

        • ginidietrich says:

          @Cision NA And you allow edits and adds to the profiles, which is really helpful, if people use them!

        • Cision NA says:

          @ginidietrich Yes, this is very true – we have to allow time to learn about & properly use tools so they make us better & more productive … says the girl who has had the Evernote app on her phone for MONTHS but hasn’t started using it 🙂
           
          Really, I think it comes down to prioritizing and making time for learning things that will help us in the most important areas of our lives. I personally think career is one of those Top areas and your passion shows that you do, too! We can only hope others follow suit and decide quality matters more than quantity.
           
          Have a great night, Gini! REALLY enjoyed this post. Talk soon!
          Best,
          Lisa

        • ginidietrich says:

          @Cision NA LOL! Use the Evernote app! You’ll be mad you didn’t use it sooner!

    • belllindsay says:

      @Cision NA Thanks! 😀

  43. KearneyBrian says:

    RT @cision: To avoid any pitching faux pas, read @ginidietrich’s The Rules of Pitching: http://t.co/s2bpY1i3 #PR #MediaRelations

  44. PattiRoseKnight says:

    Don’t get me started…#5 is my pet peeve. There better be an “unsubscribe” button and it would be refreshing if it actually WORKED.  One day I decided to unsubscribe to many of the vendors I use periodically (i.e. 1800FLOWERS, Toys R Us, etc.) and I believe that caused them to grow and grow and grow. Sorry by you got me started !!!

    • ginidietrich says:

      @PattiRoseKnight OMG! Mr. D posted on the 1800FLOWERS FB wall yesterday asking how many times he has to unsubscribe before he’s taken off the list. They responded by asking for his email address and saying they’d handle it. I guess unsubscribe doesn’t work for them.

  45. Danny Brown says:

    #5 is my favourite. Piss off already.

  46. Carmelo says:

    @belllindsay Wow, another year younger, smarter, and more beautiful … happy birthday Lindsay! 🙂 Pouring you your favourite drink.

  47. EdenSpodek says:

    @dalicie @spinsucks People still do that stuff. You should see what comes into my inbox and/or the strange pitches I get in other channels.

    • dalicie says:

      @EdenSpodek @SpinSucks Blows my mind! I’m not practicing full-time yet — still in school — but these stories shock me. Do you ignore them?

      • EdenSpodek says:

        @dalicie @spinsucks Most of them. Sometimes I’ll respond if they’re really dumb. I use an auto-responder but they ignore the message.

        • dalicie says:

          @EdenSpodek I have also heard stories about angry calls from PR people when the final piece wasn’t what they wanted … <smh>

        • EdenSpodek says:

          @dalicie I’ve only had one incident like that – it was actually to remove someone’s name – it came six months after the post was life. Ugh!

        • EdenSpodek says:

          @dalicie On the consulting side, I wouldn’t call a blogger nor advise a client to call to complain about earned media.

        • EdenSpodek says:

          @dalicie I had one situation with a sponsored post. The blogger didn’t entirely hold up his end of the bargain but it was better let it go.

        • dalicie says:

          @EdenSpodek It seems that situations like that could be handled tactfully. Of course, that seems to be asking a lot in today’s world!

        • EdenSpodek says:

          @dalicie Agreed. Every situation is unique. When there’s an agreement and money changes hands the rules are somewhat different.

        • dalicie says:

          @EdenSpodek Ah, Money Changes Everything, doesn’t it? Didn’t Cyndi Lauper sing that in the 80s?

        • EdenSpodek says:

          @dalicie Yes, it does and you’re aging us. 😉

        • dalicie says:

          @EdenSpodek Ha! I must also confess that I celebrated New Year’s Eve this year …. by watching The Goonies. Yep! It has come to that.

  48. mitchjoel says:

    I wrote this a way’s back… I know we’ve spoken about it but I think it echoes the sentiment: http://www.twistimage.com/blog/archives/attention-pr-people-heres-how-to-pitch-a-writer/ (I may be a little harsher than you are 😉

  49. Oh, Gini Dietrich , you are so brilliant! I’m gonna share this with all my blogger friends who have all these frustrations. It’s so nice to see this from someone in PR.
     
    Happy birthday, Lindsay!!

  50. iamvictoriarae says:

    Hey, peak at these #tips RT @cision: To avoid any pitching faux pas, read @ginidietrich’s The Rules of Pitching: http://t.co/9Hbuc70Z #PR

  51. kateupdates says:

    Like x 1000!
     
    I only wish you had done a video so we could see your eyes roll …
     
    (Happy Birthday, Lindsay!)

  52. KevinVandever says:

    I experience # 5 all the time. Sometimes it’s a forward of their original email, or an email following up a voice mail message, or sometimes I even receive an initial email with re: in front of the subject to make me think they’re replying to a request from me. In the words of @Danny Brown (who’s inspired me a couple times recently), Piss off already!

    • Danny Brown says:

      @KevinVandever I got a pitch the other day on behalf of a digital marketing agency, and how social media is becoming so important to business, and would I like to speak with the two founders to see how their expertise could help me.
       
      Did they not read my effin’ About Page, and see I already am part of a consultancy that offers digital education and more? GAHHHH!!!
       
      So I copy-pasted the email and attached news release and replaced it with our details instead, and sent back. Look forward to hearing from the PR gal on that. 😉

      • KevinVandever says:

        @Danny Brown Awesome! That’s a double hit, #5 and #2 from Gini’s list. I love when I receive offers to help with our Oracle ERP consulting needs. Funny thing is, WE ARE NOT AN ORACLE ERP shop. Or, when I receive email/phone requests from a vendor for a specific software tool of which we are already a customer and a user of said tool. I should go ahead and except a meeting, let them come into my office, do their song and dance, and then let them know we are already a customer and user of their tool.

    • ginidietrich says:

      @KevinVandever OMG! Yes, the “re” is NUTS! People.

  53. teewilts says:

    @mikeschaffer @spinsucks I once got a fax from the EPA.

  54. CarolynMaeKim says:

    @kamichat @ginidietrich Interesting article! Thanks for sharing!

  55. […] I Hate PR People: The Rules of Pitching Bloggers and Media, spinsucks.com […]

  56. poiseinparma says:

    @ADHicken ha, YES. I wish there was a mention about time frame. Not giving me enough time = biggest pet peeve.

  57. When I get these pitches, I just give them your email. Maybe that’s part of your problem.  
     
    But seriously, great points. These spam approaches really do nothing but increase the noise. I truly wonder what the response rate is to these things? Do they produce any return at all for the spammers?
     
    Btw, Happy Birthday @belllindsay did you just turn 27 like Gini?

  58. ginidietrich says:

    @SuperheroSM LOL!

  59. ginidietrich says:

    @aderojas Thanks!

  60. ginidietrich says:

    @HelenKitchen_PR I’m fed up!

  61. ginidietrich says:

    @ljcrest xoxo

  62. ginidietrich says:

    @jkcallas Were your ears burning today?? @belllindsay

  63. ginidietrich says:

    @giesencreative Thanks Jack!

  64. ginidietrich says:

    @LisaPetrilli xoxo

  65. ginidietrich says:

    @MargieClayman Yes, they should!

  66. ginidietrich says:

    @LouHoffman The proverbial straw broke

  67. ginidietrich says:

    @susancellura Thanks Susan!

  68. ginidietrich says:

    @adamtoporek Or because I have a big mouth

  69. ginidietrich says:

    @dintersection Thanks!

  70. ginidietrich says:

    @karirippetoe Thanks Kari!

    • karirippetoe says:

      @ginidietrich You’re very welcome! Really amazing how many times the basic rules & best practices of pitching have to be repeated.

  71. ginidietrich says:

    @ShortStackLab It’s a touchy subject

  72. ginidietrich says:

    @karimacatherine As my mom would say…some people’s children

  73. ginidietrich says:

    @cision 🙂

  74. ginidietrich says:

    @akeats Thanks Adam!

  75. ginidietrich says:

    @ldiomede You heard me exclaim that a couple of weeks ago

  76. ginidietrich says:

    @Mom101 Thanks Liz!

  77. ginidietrich says:

    @Melanie_Cara Not at all, but when you get hundreds of emails a day, it’s hard. Plus, some people will argue with you. Don’t care for that

  78. GarlandWalton says:

    I had no idea #5 was so offensive. I’ve done it before as I assume everyone is getting too many emails to see every single one and often/sometimes misses one or two or ten (like I do). (Seems I need a lesson in how to read emails faster.) Me: “I’m being helpful!” Journalist: “Unbelievable!” Thanks for schooling me. Will be sharing around so other nonprofit comms hacks don’t make my mistakes.

    • ginidietrich says:

      @GarlandWalton LOL! Maybe I’m the only person who finds that extremely irritating. I suppose if you’re not an “inbox zero” person like me, it’s probably less irritating. Now you know that about me so, if you were ever to pitch this blog, you’d know the no response meant not interested.

      • _themaven says:

        @ginidietrich  @GarlandWalton You aren’t! I’ve had the same “interesting article not related to my blog at all” sent to me 3-4 times in a 7 day period. Enough is enough.

        • GarlandWalton says:

          @_themaven  @ginidietrich I promise I’ve never been that irritating…my window is usually a week as many folks I know go back through their emails on weekends or Mondays to see what they missed. Four times in a week is obscene.

      • GarlandWalton says:

        @ginidietrich  @GarlandWalton Zero inbox in my dreams! I’m sure you’re not the only one who find it irritating–and not being irritating is my version of community service. Now I’m going to ask the journalists I work with (and those I want to start a relationship with) how they view it. (At least…I think I will…but maybe *that* is irritating? Or does it fall under “research”?)

  79. _themaven says:

    My solution to PR reps (et al) who continuously spam my email box despite my no thank yous or unsubscribe requests (Especially when they don’t list an easy way to do so) get a report to the FCC for spam the third time I have to attempt to unsub. Harsh? Maybe? But I want to work with companies that value and respect my time.

  80. thepearlmic says:

    Thanks for this awesome, honest article. I am so glad that I found it before reaching out to other bloggers. By the way, I am a blogger myself.  Question:  I’d like to reach out to other bloggers/editors  to promote features on my blog. What email program do you recommend so I do not come off as a spammer? It must have the easy one-click unsubscribe button discussed in #4 that is compatible with gmail.

    • ginidietrich says:

      @thepearlmic If you’re using Gmail, rather than do a mass mailing, I’d write an email for each person. That way it’s individualized and personalized, which gives you a better chance for success.

      • _themaven says:

        @ginidietrich  @thepearlmic It’s this amazing thing, I use Outlook and I still manage to write personalized emails. It doesn’t have much to do with the platform you use, but about 10 seconds extra. You can simply have something about unsubscribing in your signature too. Maybe it’s not a fancy mail program, but it’s still effective. Of course, I try not to practice mass emailing as a rule.

        • Bill Byrne says:

          @_themaven  @ginidietrich  @thepearlmic Exactly. It’s a little more effort to say “Hi _TheMaven,” and personalize it a tad.
           
          Everyone (who isn’t already, we may be preaching to the choir here) needs to realize that sometimes the reporter/editor/etc. won’t be interested. They may have a better source, lead, story idea and your client just isn’t going to fit in there.
           
          Sometimes, we’re just not going to get that story in USA Today, Slate, HypeBeast, CoolHunting, etc.

        • JoeCardillo says:

          @_themaven  @ginidietrich  @thepearlmic Totally agree with this. Unless someone has opted into a newsletter, there’s very little reason to ever send a mass email.
           
          And if you do, tone is huge….outside of work I send mass emails to around 150 people about local music / events and I always always start with one line that says “Hey there! I send this email about once a month but if you want out just reply with “Unsubscribe” in the subj and I’ll stop delivering cans of spam via email;)”
           
          The point I’m trying to make: these are HUMANS you are corresponding with. It’s a CONVERSATION, and if you don’t treat it as such, you’re going to turn them off and/or make them mad.
           
          When I feel someone took the courtesy to acknowledge this fact, and sent me a personal note (even if it’s just a line or two followed by pitch), 95% of the time I mark it for followup.

      • thepearlmic says:

        @ginidietrich  @thepearlmic Thanks for the tip! More simple than I thought.

  81. CarrieMcLaren says:

    @prville Awesome article. It is my life. Thanks for sharing!

  82. Bill Byrne says:

    Unfortunately this is pretty spot on. Part of that could be that at many top agencies, the pitching is left to less experienced staff who can smile and dial (or email) while the client relations and new business prospecting is handled by more senior team members.
     
    From my perspective, technology has made it easier to reach journalists, which makes it harder to cut through the clutter and get to them with a relevant story. It’s too easy to mass blast out a pitch, which leads to inbox clutter and the very good chance that a decent pitch or expert gets overlooked.
     
    I know it would be hard for many journalists to do, but when those that are friends of mine (or I at least have a good relationship with) tell me they’re not into a story or product and why, then I can tell my client verbatim for future reference. “Joe at the Mainstream Publication said he didn’t think our widget would be right for their August issue because….”.
     
    Of course, there are times journalists don’t make it easy for the PR people out there. I’ve received last minute interview requests or similar things late in the day (or on a Sunday) for things I pitched weeks or months ago, which could have been (from my perspective) handled in a more timely manner, but that’s par for the course with PR.
     
    At Remedy PR (blatant agency plug – http://www.remedypr.com), we try to use dating and friendship as ways to explain to others how we treat pitching. You reach out now and again about a story, but if someone doesn’t get back to you, they’re not interested. Similarly, you have to figure out what the potential date/friend is at least semi-interested in before you reach out. You wouldn’t invite someone who is vegan to a steakhouse, would you? Then don’t pitch the fashion editor of a major men’s magazine on a new type of tablet PC unless there’s a true fashion play there, not a stretch goal.
     
    That being said, I do blame the industry and to some extent, poorly developed resources and unchecked client expectations, for leading to these issues.

    • ginidietrich says:

      @Bill Byrne I remember being at the top of a run in Park City on Christmas day when a reporter from the NY Times called, wanting to talk to one of our clients. On Christmas. I said to her, “I am happy to help, but let me get to the bottom of this run first.” Such is the life of our jobs.
       
      I love the dating analogy, particularly as you train new professionals. We may steal that!

      • Bill Byrne says:

        @ginidietrich I can totally relate. The alternative is telling your client you’re not in that story because you were ripping it up on the slopes (although I’m sure the time off was well deserved!).
         
        Technology has made the job easier and harder at the same time.

  83. schmittastic says:

    Thank you for saying what we’re all thinking and gossiping about! It’s so easy to connect with “influencers” with social media stalking. How can you possibly bother to send a canned pitch to someone who doesn’t cover your niche and then get mad when they don’t reply. Hello insanity!

  84. shariatPR says:

    @Tinu ahem!! You’re buying this #PRPerson a drink or twenty ’cause of that tweet! #SheReallyLovesMe

  85. iStratBuzz says:

    @hannahdemilta thanks and glad you liked the blog.

  86. iStratBuzz says:

    @dream2screen thanks 🙂

  87. iStratBuzz says:

    Thanks @fahiraidris 🙂

  88. lwrocks says:

    Interesting. RT @ShellyKramer: I Hate PR People: The Rules of Pitching Bloggers and Media http://t.co/onnayzJi

  89. zaneology says:

    @RealPoshMom Sadly, even when PR reps follow those “orders” there are still be bloggers not achieving stellar results in brand performance.

  90. zaneology says:

    @RealPoshMom Sadly, even when PR reps follow those “orders” there will still be bloggers not performing/achieving stellar results for brands

  91. […] Dietrich went on a rant yesterday right here on Spin Sucks about how she hates PR people and provided seven tips on how to pitch bloggers better. She’s a PR […]

  92. firstimpressi0n says:

    @PublicityGuru Gini Dietrich makes a good point Bill! Getting facts right is paramount in the #PR industry!

  93. Team_Prescott says:

    .@PublicityGuru I once had a PD say,”you’re one of THOSE girls.” I replied, “if you mean the ones who give you your best stories, yes I am.”

  94. maroc_o_phile says:

    @PublicityGuru We bloggers also need to be choosy and be more discerning and professional and not just take every free meal going 😉

  95. sacevero says:

    Great post Gini (and thanks for the mention of Vocus). We totally agree that our mentioned media directory is a great starting off point, but it’s up to the user to get research done on their contacts and establish real relationships before they pitch.I honestly do like seeing these posts because it shows how bad pitches put PR pros in a negative light and we need to work harder to do the opposite.

    • ginidietrich says:

      @sacevero It makes me crazy when people use Vocus as their pitching tool. Yes, you should use it to create the list and to find journalists and bloggers you may not already know, but does not do the research for you, even with complete notes in there.

  96. ginidietrich says:

    @Appinions I was just reading a @spinsucks guest post that has a nice mention of you (publishes later).

  97. SarahLothspeich says:

    @PublicityGuru Research is KEY and the most overlooked step in the PR world. I love your tips!! #PRMeeshandMia

  98. groovygreenlivi says:

    @cindymeltz I want to read this!

  99. gagasgarden says:

    Hi Gini,
    Sounds like good manners, etiquette and common sense all rolled into a neat package. I also remember getting out the big green Bacon’s books. According to Nick Kellet everyone loves lists and this is a good one. I have also coached the C staff on not going it alone with an interview and they thought they would be “fine.”  There is no off the record. You should have seen the opening quote for that interview. 🙂
    Susan Fox

    • ginidietrich says:

      @gagasgarden We could probably exchange some great stories! I have one of a client who was coached for three days and then brought up the subject he was not to talk about as he walked the journalist (from 60 Minutes, mind you) to the elevator.

  100. HowieG says:

    Wow 240 comments! I thought the internet was on fire yesterday.
     
    Perfect example of why social media influence marketing fails 99.9% of the time. I bet they used Klout scores!
     
    I look at that blog post Chris Brogan did over the summer. He stayed at a resort for free and got totally wined and dined. Then he blogged about it. And he claimed ‘he wasn’t influenced by the resort nor was his post because of the free trip’ Uhm yeah right because his blog is filled with travel tips and he is an uber travel source unlike my friend cmonstah who helps write travel books for latin america.
     
    I run into this stuff a lot. I have people tell me they can do PR because they write press releases and then do a mass send. Which always works right?
     
    Don’t worry @ginidietrich i’m in advertising and you know I bash on 90% of the industry as client money sucking lampreys.

    • ginidietrich says:

      @HowieG  I love it when someone offers me something for free in exchange for a blog post…on topics we don’t cover. They’re always astounded when I turn them down. You mean you really don’t want a free whatever? Nope…not if it means I compromise what I cover here to use it.

  101. cmonstah says:

    @howiegoldfarb 🙂

  102. JoeCardillo says:

    Is it too much to ask that someone actually care about the thing or co. they’re pitching?
     
    Not a rhetorical Q, would like to hear how people feel about this….

  103. DataMotion says:

    Great advice!! “@PublicityGuru: !?!? “I Hate PR People: The Rules of Pitching Bloggers and Media” http://t.co/8a10LJE6”

  104. Trace_Cohen says:

    PR is hard because we rely on someone else (media) to do an aspect of our job. If you don’t do 2 or 3 though then you shouldn’t be in PR, no matter how long it takes you to do it. #4 is fueled a lot by #1 because it is so easy to get lots of emails that are perfect and on the boundary of potentially interested and hit them all at once. Almost everyone is guilty of this at least a few times – especially when your client thinks their news is “worthy” of press.
     
    But this all comes with the territory right? PR pros outnumber journalists/writers 4:1 so while we know you get hundreds of emails a day, it’s your job to go through them. On the event PR side, which is really an interesting space, I’m creating a platform to change all of the PR outreach – stay tuned!

  105. EdenSpodek says:

    Just got another reason to *hate*. I was asked by a U.S.-based PR person if blogged about her client’s product because it’s hard to monitor and track Canadian blogs. Whaaaaat? Heaven help us all.

  106. 3HatsComm says:

    Not surprised this has got ’em talking. I don’t rank on anyone’s totem pole, so I rarely get such baseless pitches – but sure they’d annoy if I did. IDK what else to add, what to say that ain’t been said already. Seriously, calling out on Twitter? WTH? And it’s funny to see what and how some of this actually is surprising.. like #5. I’ll have clients be all “Did you call/email the reporter (or blogger) again?! You need to email again!!” and I’m like “Hell no. They got the detailed pitch, then a time-sensitive reminder; that’s all your ‘grand opening’ gets .. and frankly, is more than needed/deserved.” 
     
    The problem w/ your solid media/blogger relations rules is that it requires work. Can’t have a bot do the research, can’t really staff it out to the intern, can’t automate it for $49.98/month. And all for ‘only 20’ changes of success vs. the ‘100s’ of publicity opps if you just spammed everyone w/ your not newsworthy, irrelevant crap. Real work, real time, real money – invest in real Public Relations. FWIW.

  107. […] This blog post first appeared on Spin Sucks […]

  108. […] out to them, our effectiveness will remain limited by Dunbar’s number. Though we, as an industry, decry the “spray-and-pray” approach to disseminating news, it’s nonetheless common. After all, […]

  109. […] Gini Dietrich posts “I Hate PR People: The Rules of Pitching Bloggers and Media” at Spin Sucks. […]

  110. sweeEkriti says:

    @timepass @SpinSucks This is really good. Thanks 🙂

  111. […] Dietrich, of the Spin Sucks blog, made the sharp but totally accurate point that a lot of what gives PR a bad name is bad pitching. Bad pitching of stories to bloggers, to journalists, to media outlets does no good for anyone. So […]

  112. ginidietrich says:

    @aliciakan xoxo

  113. giesencreative says:

    @ginidietrich Not enough RTs?

  114. […] on a non-mobile site is just awesome. Pulling up a blog post or an article, whether it’s on Spin Sucks or Inc.com, and having it load as it should for the screen in which I’m viewing it is flat […]

  115. Yuricon says:

    @tonia_ries @ginidietrich Lack of basic research is what kills me. It’s so ridiculous when I get pitches for things way out of my purview.

  116. soundslikerhea says:

    @neilglassman @ginidietrich @SpinSucks Thanks! Definitely will keep this in mind!

  117. Jevtich1 says:

    @RockChristopher @GetBinkd @mistygirlph Huum! The “lawless internet” back in da day would say: “Summer Rules Mean No Rules.”

  118. jyarbrough says:

    Gini,
     
    I enjoyed your post and can’t imagine anyone disagreeing with you that there is a significant portion of the PR industry (for lack of a better term) that has no business doing press outreach or representing any brand/client to the public for that matter. That said, the tips above are pretty much table stakes at this point. I have no doubt that if everyone followed those steps alone the collective reputation of PR people around the world would immediately see a boost and journalists would cry unicorn tears of joy as a result of hundreds fewer emails every day.
     
    But even more than improving email etiquette and doing basic research, the PR function (meaning all of us) really needs to get better at basic communication. Why does something matter, how is it relevant to the journalist’s beat, what is the opportunity being presented (journos don’t want to rewrite press releases; it’s a necessary evil but but they hate it). I’m not sure when it became acceptable to simply blast out bits of seemingly unrelated information and pray that something sticks, but the fact that most PR people lack a basic understanding of how to construct a story is sad and pathetic. 
     
    I’m not sure what the answer is, but it probably has something to do with agencies training better. A creative writing course here and there wouldn’t hurt either. Anyway, thanks for starting the discussion. Hopefully one day soon we’ll all be able to talk about how things have improved…

    • ginidietrich says:

      @jyarbrough A creative writing course sure wouldn’t hurt! I totally agree with you. I think the issue is that, for a gazillion years, everything stayed pretty much the same. In the past five years, the industry has completely been upended and most pros aren’t keeping up. Want to understand how to do blogger relations? Blog. Want to understand how to use social media to engage a group of loyal customers? Use it personally. Want to create a measurable program? Dig into analytics in your own time. Most people won’t go to these lengths so the industry is stagnant.

  119. SusetLaboy says:

    @danperezfilms @ginidietrich Yes. The client/pr dynamic is key to preventing hateful pr. Somehow parlaying these rules to clients is key.

    • ginidietrich says:

      @SusetLaboy Which, of course, is sometimes easier said than done. But there are some things PR pros can do with not so good news

      • SusetLaboy says:

        @ginidietrich Indeed. And sometimes saying no to a client (no we can’t pitch x,y,z to x,y,z) is necessary. Good clients will understand.

  120. colbaroo says:

    Now that’s blunt “@PublicityGuru: !?!? “I Hate PR People: The Rules of Pitching Bloggers and Media” http://t.co/zyi9qxwe”

  121. Canterucci says:

    @ChristianGAdams Clearly relevance isn’t common sense.

  122. dbvickery says:

    Happy birthday, Lindsay – looks like Gini should be kept from all sharp objects until her frustration dies down.
    Fun read, though. Glad I’m not in PR and repeatedly asking Gini to run content. And the “end around” generally sets up for a big loss versus big reward – in business and in football!

  123. gunshotdigital says:

    @dbvickery @ginidietrich I think they’re pretty smart they are the only ones I can get away without showing actual analytics..:-)

  124. iStratBuzz says:

    @djfrankieee thanks 🙂

  125. AmantMystere says:

    @yossoura and i hate you too…

  126. ginidietrich says:

    @writingrenee I’m a smart butt (as my mom would say)

  127. brasker says:

    I Hate PR People: The Rules of Pitching Bloggers and Media http://t.co/yCKjtYGp via @samfiorella “do your freaking research”

    • samfiorella says:

      @brasker What? Doesn’t blogging = no research required? Or “attributing Wikipedia is research enough?” #pr

      • brasker says:

        @samfiorella you also don’t give your sales a lead outside of your target market, same for approaching influencers and bloggers

  128. ginidietrich says:

    @stephanies Based on my inbox this week, no…they don’t.

  129. fluxresearch says:

    @wesdavenport @courtenayrogers Hasn’t been so bad for me except for the lack of research.

  130. fluxresearch says:

    @wesdavenport @courtenayrogers At this point I’ve often been covering companies way before they hired their current publicists.

  131. […] for writing large bodies of work to refreshing one’s thinking about PR.  I gravitated toward this one because in my line of work, I am particularly sensitive to what bloggers and especially […]

  132. CathieEricson says:

    @Soulati @ginidietrich Bad ones make good ones look extra good, but it always makes reporters/bloggers want to ignore most.

  133. […] home page as their “news release” (I seriously hate PR people sometimes; more on that here). What is wrong with people? Can you imagine paying for a PR firm to do that? I’d be […]

  134. […] Gini Dietrich explains why she “hates PR People” and offers useful reminders about the rules of pitching bloggers and media. […]

  135. […] this is one of those situations where everyone says they do something but no one really does it. Gini Dietrich notes on spinsucks.com that media list services such as Cision and Vocus are great starting places, but […]

  136. heatherakemi says:

    Harsh, but helpful and practical tips for those of us who pitch to bloggers. Thank you for your post!

  137. robin324 says:

    It’s frightening the collective disdain that PR pros have garnered, which makes it suck for those of us who are trying to do it the right way. It ‘s exhausting having to expend so much energy trying to get coverage for our clients in a medium that’s going to be used to wrap fish in the next day (newspaper). I teach my clients that they need to Get R.E.A.L to get noticed by being realistic, engaging, authentic, and long lasting (in other words, real) with their clients. And, I teach them that they can get all the visibility they want without ever engaging traditional media.

  138. robin324 says:

    It’s frightening the collective disdain that PR pros have garnered, which makes it suck for those of us who are trying to do it the right way. It ‘s exhausting having to expend so much energy trying to get coverage for our clients in a medium that’s going to be used to wrap fish in the next day (newspaper). I teach my clients that they need to Get R.E.A.L to get noticed by being realistic, engaging, authentic, and long lasting (in other words, real) with their clients. And, I teach them that they can get all the visibility they want without ever engaging traditional media.

    • ginidietrich says:

      robin324 It IS exhausting, isn’t it? I didn’t realize how bad some PR pros are until we started getting pitches for this blog. You should see some of the bad pitches we get. It sounds like you’re doing it exactly the right way. Keep doing that kind of work and you’ll continue to have good clients.

  139. […] Outreach is the Sexy Name For What PR PROs Have Been Doing On Social Media Today The Rules of Pitching Bloggers and Media on Spin Sucks 8 Tips for Successfully Pitching to Bloggers on […]

  140. […] but it’s especially important when time is of the essence. You have to be able to tell a reporter why this information is relevant to them right now, and why it should be […]

  141. […] on LinkedIn or a massive Twitter following doesn’t mean you are connected to the right people. Shift your focus to getting to know people. Know what they are doing, what drives them, and be on the lookout for opportunities to help them. […]

  142. […] completely inappropriate pitch. We’ve covered that on Spin Sucks a thousand times or more. Do your research. The media database companies are there only as a […]

  143. […] bloggers line up with your target audience and start contacting them non-abrasively. Check out this post on SpinSucks about pitching. Love […]

  144. […] you have researched the journalists (remember to add bloggers to this list and treat them with the same courtesy you would treat a traditional journalist – journalism has […]

  145. […] also relates to media pitching. It may seem obvious, but I’ve seen it happen so I have to bring it up – don’t pitch a story […]

  146. […] The Rules of Pitching Bloggers and Media on Spin Sucks […]

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