Gini Dietrich

Samsung Threatens Bloggers and Provides a Valuable Lesson

By: Gini Dietrich | September 6, 2012 | 
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It’s been a while since we’ve had a PR gone bad case study to review.

And, granted, this did not happen in North America.

Yet here we are again.

I saw the story this past weekend and was debating about whether or not to write about it when Jodi Echakowitz asked me if I’d seen it.

Then we had a healthy debate about it and she convinced me it’s something we should all know about and consider for any future blogger relations and/or brand ambassador programs.

So here’s the story…

Samsung Threatens Bloggers

The gist of the story is that Samsung has, what they call, Mob!lers, which is their brand ambassador program.

People who are part of this program, at least in other parts of the world, are contest winners who are then given a phone and other perks, in exchange for tweets, updates, videos, podcasts, blog posts, and other content that talks about the benefits of the Samsung phone products.

So far, so good. These are the types of programs I’m sure we’ve all at least seen, if not also created.

So Samsung launches this program in India and invited some bloggers to cover the IFA Conference in Berlin, in exchange for an all expenses paid trip.

But here is where it gets weird.

In the bloggers’s minds, they were going to cover the conference, which meant they could attend the conference, walk the show floor, talk to other vendors, and go back home to India with lots of content for their blogs.

In the minds of Samsung, however, the bloggers were to wear a Samsung uniform, stand in the booth all day, every day, and shill the product on behalf of the company.

When the bloggers refused, stating they had no intention of playing the role of a Samsung employee, a “stern-faced” PR professional told them they could either play by the rules or be stranded in Germany.

They were told on a phone call to one of the bloggers:

You can either be a part of this and wear the uniform, or you’ll have to get your own tickets back home and handle your hotel stay from the moment this call ends.

They felt their hands were forced so they wore the Samsung shirt and stood near the booth, but opted not to demonstrate the phones for attendees.

The next morning, the bloggers awoke to an email stating the Samsung event was over so they were being shuttled home (several days earlier than planned). They were not allowed to attend the show to cover any other part of it, including any other product demonstrations or vendors who were in attendance.

What this Means to Brands

I have to admit, if I’m paying a brand ambassador to attend a conference, I want them there supporting our client(s).

But a brand ambassador is different than a blogger. For all intents and purposes, bloggers should be treated as journalists. Sending them to an event and expecting them to cover only you, even if it’s an all expenses paid trip, is clearly not going to fly.

Brands, be clear about your intent before the trip, event, or conference arrives. If your intent is to have them cover you, and only you, be clear about that and, if they refuse, pay for only a portion of their trip so they are free to cover other products and vendors.

You can, however, be very clear in that they are not to cover a competitor. But you can’t tell them who to meet with, what to cover, and certainly not what to write. And you definitely cannot threaten to send them home, once you’re there and decide to change the rules.

A brand ambassador is someone who can act like an employee and help you shill your product. The relationship with those people is of that nature.

A blogger, on the other hand, is an influential journalist. There is a reason you have invited him or her to the event, just like you would a journalist. It’s to gain the third-party credibility and (you hope) to gain positive coverage. But it’s not to have them shill your product or tell them what they can and cannot write.

I know I wouldn’t accept a trip if I were told what I could and couldn’t cover. My job is to my readers, not to a brand. If you want me to cover you, give me the information and tools to make an informed decision and let me cover it the way I would, even if you weren’t paying me.

What this Means to PR Pros

Guys, this isn’t any different than a media tour, which I’m certain most of you have done at one point in your career.

I’ll give you an example.

I used to work on The Catfish Institute business. I loved working on that account. Our job was to get farm-raised catfish onto the menus of white tablecloth restaurants.

Part of that was inviting celebrity chefs to create recipes using the Mississippi-bred fish, which was a total blast.

One year, we held a recipe contest in Mississippi. We flew the celebrity chefs down. We flew the food media down. We created an event out of nothing.

The rules were the celebrity chefs were to have one recipe (out of four) that included farm-raised catfish. And the media were to cover the event. They could decide not to include the catfish recipes in their coverage…or they could. It was up to them, but the important thing is we did not tell them what they could and could not write about, even though we’d paid for their trip.

In this case, our brand ambassadors were the chefs and our bloggers were the food media. In order to create a fair and balanced event, only a quarter of the recipes had to include our client’s product.

The rules have not changed.

Just because your audience is a blogger does not mean you can tell him or her what to cover, how to cover it, and what to say.

They are journalists. The reason you want to work with them is because they’ve created an audience you care about.

If you pay a blogger to do anything on your behalf, be clear about your expectations up front and let them decide how they want to handle it. There is always room for negotiation, but one thing you should never do is tell them what to write.

It’s not ethical and it’s not right.

If you want to read the entire story about how this went down, including copies of email exchanges and the “apology” from Samsung, you can find it on The Next Web.

About Gini Dietrich


Gini Dietrich is the founder and CEO of Arment Dietrich, an integrated marketing communications firm. She is the author of Spin Sucks, co-author of Marketing in the Round, and co-host of Inside PR. She also is the lead blogger at Spin Sucks and is the founder of Spin Sucks Pro.

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jasonkonopinski
3 years 10 months ago

I did some research on this after we recorded yesterday and all I can say is HOLY COW. o_O

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @jasonkonopinski Crazy, right? I’ve been thinking about it for days and Jodi finally convinced me it’s a story to be told, even if it did happen halfway around the world.

rhastings1202
rhastings1202
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich @spinsucks awful handling of this situation! Hard to believe some companies still don’t “get” this.

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@rhastings1202 I don’t know why they think bloggers are any different than journalists

rhastings1202
rhastings1202
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich that’s the problem isn’t it? They must assume journalistic integrity doesn’t apply to bloggers?

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@rhastings1202 I think so. They assume, because they’ve provided product or a trip, the blogger will write whatever they want.

rhastings1202
rhastings1202
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich wonder if internal PR team gave their blessing to this approach? Seems they would know better.

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@rhastings1202 Unfortunately, I think they were behind it. The emails came from them.

rhastings1202
rhastings1202
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich *sigh*

jefftobin
jefftobin
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich Another side of it is that it comes down to the ethical stance a journalist or blogger takes. Some will shill for $, jobs, etc

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@jefftobin I agree…that’s why I said in the blog post that PR pros should know what the bloggers are willing to do. Assuming is bad

TaraGeissinger
TaraGeissinger
3 years 10 months ago

I hadn’t heard of this, but WOW! I agree 100% — bloggers are journalists. You cannot tell them what to write anymore than you could a reporter for the Times. Can you imagine thinking you’re going to attend the show and then being put to work? I guess they are lucky this didn’t become more of a PR nightmare for them.

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @TaraGeissinger I would be LIVID (and they were), but what do you do when you’re already in Germany and you’re told you either play their game or get left without plane tickets home or a hotel room? I hate to say it, but I think contracts and attorneys (on both sides) have to get involved before these events happen. That way there is no “misunderstanding,” as Samsung put it.

jasonkonopinski
3 years 10 months ago

 @ginidietrich  @TaraGeissinger My feeling is that many brands (especially the big boys) through their proverbial weight around with bloggers who are hungry for the recognition and get dazzled by the press trip opportunity that they don’t dot their Is and cross their Ts. 

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @jasonkonopinski  @TaraGeissinger I think you’re probably right, in most cases. For some reason, this one case left me feeling like the bloggers were pretty clear about what they would and wouldn’t do. 

jasonkonopinski
3 years 10 months ago

 @ginidietrich  @TaraGeissinger I absolutely agree and, yet despite all of that, Samsung thought they could bully these bloggers.  
 
 cc_chapman  and I discussed blogger press trips in a recent episode of the podcast. It was a really interesting conversation. He reminded me that while travel + expenses might be covered, that’s where the compensation stops – and that means time away from the day job, home and family. 

belllindsay
belllindsay
3 years 10 months ago

Yikes. Bad form. But also bad form for bloggers at the level to be *considered* journalists, to not cover all their bases and be sure they knew EXACTLY what they were getting into. 

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @belllindsay Based on the email exchanges I’ve read, the bloggers were VERY clear about what they were going there to do. Samsung changed the rules after everyone arrived. But the kicker? They publicly said it was a misunderstanding, but in a private email to one of the bloggers empathized and took the blame.

belllindsay
belllindsay
3 years 10 months ago

 @ginidietrich Ahh, ok, I hadn’t read the whole story (the link you included). That’s just bad in so many ways. Hijacking! 

allenmireles
3 years 10 months ago

 @ginidietrich I agree with @TaraGeissinger . Samsung is lucky that this story hasn’t generated more negative press for them than it has so far. Your post provides really important reminders for any of us who hope to work with bloggers and brand ambassadors. Yeesh. What was Samsung thinking? 

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @allenmireles  I think the reason it hasn’t is it happened over Labor Day weekend and it wasn’t in the U.S. Otherwise I think it’d be all over the place.

GrizzardComm
GrizzardComm
3 years 10 months ago

Don’t bully bloggers. RT @MargieClayman Interesting case study of customer service AND pr gone wrong, by @ginidietrich http://t.co/X1PY55DR

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@GrizzardComm Yeah!

burgessct
burgessct
3 years 10 months ago

Managing expectations is step one and one they stepped over.   Thanks for sharing @ginidietrich 

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @burgessct It hurts my little brain!

jasonkonopinski
3 years 10 months ago

 @ginidietrich  @burgessct You said “little”. Heh. 

Sean McGinnis
3 years 10 months ago

 @burgessct  @ginidietrich I agree completely. All about managing expectations and communication.

amybp
amybp
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich I read that & was literally stunned

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@amybp People amaze me.

SociallyGenius
3 years 10 months ago

This sounds like a devious trick that I play on my kids to get them to clean their room. But even I give them choices on what they want to clean! Before I drop some F bombs or spell out BS, I’m just gonna leave it at that.

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @SociallyGenius HAHAHAHA! You will clean your room or you do not get to go to Chuck E. Cheese’s!

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@MargieClayman How was your birthday??

MargieClayman
MargieClayman
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich Well, what can I say about a day where about 200 people wished me happy birthday? 🙂

MargieClayman
MargieClayman
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich plus I got to eat Chinese food, strawberry rhubarb pie, and I got to watch True Grit. I mean…ridiculous! 🙂

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@MargieClayman I wish you were closer…I’d take you out for birthday dessert

ryanleecox
ryanleecox
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich @MargieClayman I’ve used that line once or twice.

MargieClayman
MargieClayman
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich I’ll take a raincheck darlin 🙂

RicDragon
RicDragon
3 years 10 months ago

@MargieClayman @ginidietrich did someone say #pie?

MargieClayman
MargieClayman
3 years 10 months ago

@RicDragon I think @ginidietrich and I probably were more along the chocolate brownie road…:)

MargieClayman
MargieClayman
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich thanks for asking 😀

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@TaraGeissinger Right?? I just replied to your comment, too

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@vickiaday Thanks Vicki!

vickiaday
vickiaday
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich your welcome – I’m stunned seriously

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@vickiaday I know. It pains me.

wdwdisneyland7
wdwdisneyland7
3 years 10 months ago

@jenajean have a fab day

jenajean
jenajean
3 years 10 months ago

@wdwdisneyland7 Thanks, Tiff! Sunshine’s the order of the day! 🙂

wdwdisneyland7
wdwdisneyland7
3 years 10 months ago

@jenajean yea baby I love sunshine

MZazeela
MZazeela
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich Do big companies really care about anything besides P&L? People are expendable as machine parts.

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@MZazeela Maybe not 🙁

JodiEchakowitz
JodiEchakowitz
3 years 10 months ago

Gini, I’m really glad that you and I had a debate on this issue, and that you decided to write about it. I think there are lots of lessons we can all learn (or be reminded of) from Samsung’s program and how they implemented it. Like @allenmireles, I’m also surprised that there wasn’t more negative press about the program (but you’re right, the Labor Day long weekend and the fact that it didn’t have in North America are likely the reasons why). Samsung has certainly gotten off lightly this time around, and hopefully it’s a lesson learned for them too.

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @JodiEchakowitz  Thanks for your part in this blog post! The more I thought about it after we discussed yesterday morning, the more on fire I got. 

Patrick Fitzgerald
Patrick Fitzgerald
3 years 10 months ago

 @ginidietrich Doesn’t the game change the moment their is consideration offered? In my mind, you can’t treat a journalist like a serious journalist if their trip has been underwritten by a company who may be the subject of their coverage? Samsung could have handled it better, but you have to admit, they kept themselves the focus of the bloggers coverage! As a Samsung user, they make a great product; after that there is almost nothing that they do well.

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @Patrick Fitzgerald I think there is an ethical way of doing things, just like I illustrated with The Catfish Institute. Yes, we paid for their trip and all of their expenses. Yes, we HOPED they’d write favorable stories about catfish. But we didn’t require it and we certainly didn’t expect them to shill catfish for us.

BobReed
3 years 10 months ago

Besides clear communication and managing expectations, this demonstrates ignorance on the part of Samsung. And that information deficit goes straight to the top. Samsung’s lawyers waited three days to tell the CEO that it lost the recent Apple lawsuit. The CEO reacted very poorly.  One of the biggest tech stories of the year and this guy didn’t know what was going on? Begs the question of how big a bubble these people live in. 

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @BobReed And how is it the CEO didn’t know that for THREE days? Does he not read the freaking news? The rest of us knew immediately.

AskAaronLee
AskAaronLee
3 years 10 months ago

@JimConnolly Ohhhh samsung….. @ginidietrich @spinsucks

JimConnolly
JimConnolly
3 years 10 months ago

@AskAaronLee Unreal how Samsung acted. How are you, Aaron?

AskAaronLee
AskAaronLee
3 years 10 months ago

@JimConnolly I am great. And you? (off to bed soon)

JimConnolly
JimConnolly
3 years 10 months ago

@AskAaronLee Glad to hear it – All good here too. G’night my friend!

Lisa Gerber
3 years 10 months ago

Well, frankly, anyone who puts an exclamation mark in the MIDDLE of a word for it’s brand ambassador program should be looked at more closely. I don’t even think @belllindsay would do that. or wait. Is it eveypistorio (one of you proclaims to abuse exclamation points.)
 
But in all seriousness, I just understand where these people come from and how they think they can get away with it. To @bobreed ‘s point, it indicates a serious organizational culture problem. 

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @Lisa Gerber  HAHAHAHAHA! I almost wrote (or mobilers, just for my own sanity). LOL!!

yvettepistorio
yvettepistorio
3 years 10 months ago

 @Lisa Gerber  @belllindsay  eveypistorio  @bobreed I abuse exclamation points and emoticons and I’m proud of it! But even I have to draw the line somewhere. 

barrettrossie
3 years 10 months ago

 @Lisa Gerber  @belllindsay  eveypistorio  @bobreed @ginidietrich 
You guys should change your handles: L!saGerber! G!n!d!etr!ch! bell!ndsay! everyp!stor!o!  Sadly, Bob gets left out. 

bhas
3 years 10 months ago
I think you have to consider the culture. I am assuming that Samsung India hired a local PR agency to liaise with the bloggers. I was a tech journalist in my past life with India’s largest personal technology magazine and I have an idea how the big boys deal with tech media and blogs, which are very niche and lightweight compared to mainstream media.   So I am guessing that the PR person thought s/he could bully the bloggers and they would roll over and do what they wanted. After all, tickets from Berlin to Delhi are expensive and these… Read more »
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @bhas I totally agree with you on the culture piece of things. I almost didn’t write about it because I know things are completely different in India. But then I decided, even if it happened halfway around the world, there is a lesson in there for brands here (and those working globally) if only to avoid the same mistake.

Carmelo
3 years 10 months ago

Did the Samsung shirts say: “I’m a Paid Shill here to compromise my journalistic integrity!” They may as well have. 
 
Gee! Like you said, they created the audience that you want. How short sited to try to grab it all now, unethically, and at the expense of losing it forever. Who was in charge of thinking this out?

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @Carmelo It sounds like this happens pretty regularly in India, but I really love your shirt idea! We should make some at Threadless and sell them!

Todayseconomy
Todayseconomy
3 years 10 months ago

@BeingMarci absolutely not. Brand bloggers are marketers and they should embrace that. My opinion.

BeingMarci
BeingMarci
3 years 10 months ago

Thats what makes it interesting q. How do define “brand bloggers? Are they exclusively blogging for 1 brand, on brands site? @Todayseconomy

Todayseconomy
Todayseconomy
3 years 10 months ago

@BeingMarci great question. My opinion: if you blog for a non-media company (as I do), then you’re not a journalist. Period. TBC

Todayseconomy
Todayseconomy
3 years 10 months ago

@BeingMarci The necessary support/oversight simply isn’t in place. You’re not edited properly, etc. TBC

Todayseconomy
Todayseconomy
3 years 10 months ago

@BeingMarci that said, smart mktg is about publishing quality content that isn’t self-serving. That sets bar high, but it is reachable.

BeingMarci
BeingMarci
3 years 10 months ago

@Todayseconomy jsut RT’d that – to me THAT is the ultimate (achievable!) goal! Thanks Kevin!!

ChantalSaville
ChantalSaville
3 years 10 months ago

@Todayseconomy @beingmarci our paper has been doing that for a decade.

ChantalSaville
ChantalSaville
3 years 10 months ago

@BeingMarci Samsung should have been clear about what they wanted from these people #communicationfail

BeingMarci
BeingMarci
3 years 10 months ago

agreed. But for me, it raised question of Blogger/Brand expectations: Are bloggers marketers or journalists? @ChantalSaville

ChantalSaville
ChantalSaville
3 years 10 months ago

@BeingMarci well that’s the $64million question. The line is blurry for those who monetize.

BeingMarci
BeingMarci
3 years 10 months ago

@ChantalSaville and not just for those who monetize…I don’t and still feel confused at times ;0

hvbabywilltrvl
hvbabywilltrvl
3 years 10 months ago

@BeingMarci @chantalsaville they are and can be both. Each decides their own role and how/if to work with brands.

BeingMarci
BeingMarci
3 years 10 months ago

@hvbabywilltrvl @ChantalSaville agreed. It’s the wanting to be BOTH that seems murky to me….

ChantalSaville
ChantalSaville
3 years 10 months ago

@hvbabywilltrvl @beingmarci bottom line? It needs to be transparent to the reader. Is it always?

BeingMarci
BeingMarci
3 years 10 months ago

If I am writing about a brand I always list it at TOP of my post, to be clear from the start, for example. @ChantalSaville @hvbabywilltrvl

hvbabywilltrvl
hvbabywilltrvl
3 years 10 months ago

@BeingMarci @chantalsaville why? I consider myself both. Would never work with/support brands I’d never support anyway, and always disclose.

ChantalSaville
ChantalSaville
3 years 10 months ago

@hvbabywilltrvl @beingmarci but you won’t always agree with a brand’s pov. How do you deal with that?

hvbabywilltrvl
hvbabywilltrvl
3 years 10 months ago

@ChantalSaville @beingmarci Simple. Wouldn’t work w/them or would discuss/end relationship. Bad for business, but important for credibility.

ChantalSaville
ChantalSaville
3 years 10 months ago

@hvbabywilltrvl @beingmarci what if asked 2 write about some aspect of their biz that you didn’t agree with. You can say no? Will they walk?

BeingMarci
BeingMarci
3 years 10 months ago

@ChantalSaville @hvbabywilltrvl Ha – Chantal you and @KarmicEvolution are saying same thing really…

ChantalSaville
ChantalSaville
3 years 10 months ago

@BeingMarci @hvbabywilltrvl @karmicevolution I know. Just realized that.

KarmicEvolution
KarmicEvolution
3 years 10 months ago

@hvbabywilltrvl @chantalsaville @beingmarci so you wouldn’t post a bad review?

hvbabywilltrvl
hvbabywilltrvl
3 years 10 months ago

@ChantalSaville @beingmarci not likely to happen since I fully research before deciding to work with any company. But if it did I would not.

ChantalSaville
ChantalSaville
3 years 10 months ago

@hvbabywilltrvl @beingmarci I’m guessing less honourable bloggers would still do it. Money talks.

hvbabywilltrvl
hvbabywilltrvl
3 years 10 months ago

@KarmicEvolution @chantalsaville @beingmarci if I really didn’t like something, I would discuss to see if they’d prefer I rather not post.

ChantalSaville
ChantalSaville
3 years 10 months ago

@hvbabywilltrvl @karmicevolution @beingmarci makes sense

KarmicEvolution
KarmicEvolution
3 years 10 months ago

@hvbabywilltrvl @chantalsaville @beingmarci you don’t think that’s a disservice to your readers?

hvbabywilltrvl
hvbabywilltrvl
3 years 10 months ago

@KarmicEvolution @chantalsaville @beingmarci but all my reviews are balanced. Readers and brands don’t expect me to be a cheerleader.

BeingMarci
BeingMarci
3 years 10 months ago

@KarmicEvolution @hvbabywilltrvl @ChantalSaville great thing about a blog is YOU own/control/edit it as you see fit, right?

KarmicEvolution
KarmicEvolution
3 years 10 months ago

@BeingMarci @hvbabywilltrvl @chantalsaville exactly. I’m not saying my way is right. Just my opinion.

KarmicEvolution
KarmicEvolution
3 years 10 months ago

@BeingMarci @hvbabywilltrvl @chantalsaville mho if you’re brand loyal you pull or tweak a post. Reader loyal you post even negative reviews

ChantalSaville
ChantalSaville
3 years 10 months ago

@BeingMarci @karmicevolution @hvbabywilltrvl yes.

hvbabywilltrvl
hvbabywilltrvl
3 years 10 months ago

@KarmicEvolution @chantalsaville @beingmarci How so? People ask for recommendations, not for examples of things I don’t support.

KarmicEvolution
KarmicEvolution
3 years 10 months ago

@hvbabywilltrvl @chantalsaville @beingmarci random product review is not people asking for recommendations.

KarmicEvolution
KarmicEvolution
3 years 10 months ago

@hvbabywilltrvl @chantalsaville @beingmarci say there’s a product you’re curious about, you google it, are you looking for reviews or recos?

phdinparenting
phdinparenting
3 years 10 months ago

@hvbabywilltrvl @KarmicEvolution @chantalsaville @beingmarci I think it is valuable to incl recommendations + things to avoid.

ChantalSaville
ChantalSaville
3 years 10 months ago

@KarmicEvolution @hvbabywilltrvl @beingmarci reviews

phdinparenting
phdinparenting
3 years 10 months ago

@hvbabywilltrvl @KarmicEvolution @chantalsaville @beingmarci Also don’t trust any review that doesn’t touch on good and bad about a product.

KarmicEvolution
KarmicEvolution
3 years 10 months ago

@phdinparenting @hvbabywilltrvl @chantalsaville @beingmarci when a post says “not for me but see the appeal” I wonder what they’re not sayin

BeingMarci
BeingMarci
3 years 10 months ago

@KarmicEvolution @phdinparenting @hvbabywilltrvl @ChantalSaville I’m fine w/that.Look, if I thought product was dangerous or irresponsible –

phdinparenting
phdinparenting
3 years 10 months ago

@KarmicEvolution @hvbabywilltrvl @chantalsaville @beingmarci I don’t do reviews anymore, but when I did, I always used same style.

BeingMarci
BeingMarci
3 years 10 months ago

@KarmicEvolution @phdinparenting @hvbabywilltrvl @ChantalSaville I’d say it.But not every product will appeal to ME, nor am I EXPERT of it –

BeingMarci
BeingMarci
3 years 10 months ago

@KarmicEvolution @phdinparenting @hvbabywilltrvl @ChantalSaville So, I’d probably like what I DID like ANd say “but not for me” too.

phdinparenting
phdinparenting
3 years 10 months ago

@KarmicEvolution @hvbabywilltrvl @chantalsaville @beingmarci E.g. mostly positive one http://t.co/mpAiDRvh More neg: http://t.co/DrJIQoiR

KarmicEvolution
KarmicEvolution
3 years 10 months ago

@BeingMarci @phdinparenting @hvbabywilltrvl @chantalsaville but you wouldn’t say what you didn’t like?

BeingMarci
BeingMarci
3 years 10 months ago

@KarmicEvolution @phdinparenting @hvbabywilltrvl @ChantalSaville yes, I’d say “too expensive.too salty, too…FOR ME but maybe not for you.

BeingMarci
BeingMarci
3 years 10 months ago

@phdinparenting @KarmicEvolution @hvbabywilltrvl @ChantalSaville Did you get any feeedback from evenflo on your review?

ChantalSaville
ChantalSaville
3 years 10 months ago

@BeingMarci @phdinparenting @karmicevolution @hvbabywilltrvl yes I was curious about that too

hvbabywilltrvl
hvbabywilltrvl
3 years 10 months ago

@KarmicEvolution @chantalsaville @beingmarci People come to me for recommendations. That’s the point of my reviews. And mine are balanced.

phdinparenting
phdinparenting
3 years 10 months ago

@BeingMarci @KarmicEvolution @hvbabywilltrvl @ChantalSaville Yes, they thanked me for taking time to get to know their pump.

hvbabywilltrvl
hvbabywilltrvl
3 years 10 months ago

@phdinparenting @karmicevolution @chantalsaville @beingmarci Exactly. I’m not a cheerleader. Key word is balanced.

ChantalSaville
ChantalSaville
3 years 10 months ago

@phdinparenting @beingmarci @karmicevolution @hvbabywilltrvl but this wasn’t a $$ situation…?

BeingMarci
BeingMarci
3 years 10 months ago

That’s decent. Can I asked why you stopped doing reviews? @phdinparenting @KarmicEvolution @hvbabywilltrvl @ChantalSaville

phdinparenting
phdinparenting
3 years 10 months ago

@ChantalSaville @beingmarci @karmicevolution @hvbabywilltrvl They gave me a pump, but no $ exchanged hands.

phdinparenting
phdinparenting
3 years 10 months ago

@ChantalSaville @beingmarci @karmicevolution @hvbabywilltrvl I would never write a paid review. That’s an ad, IMO.

phdinparenting
phdinparenting
3 years 10 months ago

@BeingMarci @KarmicEvolution @hvbabywilltrvl @ChantalSaville Too many e-mails from people asking me to review their product …

phdinparenting
phdinparenting
3 years 10 months ago

@BeingMarci @KarmicEvolution @hvbabywilltrvl @ChantalSaville … and not a lot of interest in writing that type of post.

phdinparenting
phdinparenting
3 years 10 months ago

@BeingMarci @KarmicEvolution @hvbabywilltrvl @ChantalSaville Easier to say no to everyone than to be really picky + piss people off.

ChantalSaville
ChantalSaville
3 years 10 months ago

@phdinparenting @beingmarci @karmicevolution @hvbabywilltrvl oh ok. I totally agree

ChantalSaville
ChantalSaville
3 years 10 months ago

@phdinparenting @beingmarci @karmicevolution @hvbabywilltrvl I can imagine.

BeingMarci
BeingMarci
3 years 10 months ago

@phdinparenting @ChantalSaville @KarmicEvolution @hvbabywilltrvl OK I would not accept $$ fro product review, but would accept products 1/2

BeingMarci
BeingMarci
3 years 10 months ago

@phdinparenting @KarmicEvolution @hvbabywilltrvl @ChantalSaville good point.

HowieG
3 years 10 months ago
I tweeted this to the head of US Social for Samsung Esteban Contreras socialnerdia  curious if he will stop in and comment. There are many facets to this story. First is in the US any bloggers would have to say the trip was paid for and possibly their role. So Samsung obviously knew this is different in the EU and India (is it?). I agree with the statement Gini these are journalists.   What shocks me is that Samsung which is a Fortune World 50 company would be so cheap about this. If they told these folks 1] trip is paid… Read more »
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @HowieG  Most of this we’re speculating, based on email exchanges that were published. What we’re not seeing is the email exchanges that weren’t published so we may be missing something. I also know there is a big cultural difference, which is why I went back and forth in my brain about whether or not to blog about this. But then I decided there is a lesson for U.S. brands in it.

Keena Lykins
Keena Lykins
3 years 10 months ago
 @ginidietrich  @HowieG  I agree there is a big cultural difference but the world has contracted enough that most everyone knows how journalists should/should not be treated. Even in China, where it’s customary to pay an honorarium to a journalist to write your story, you can’t tell them what to write.   To me, it appears Samsung didn’t view these bloggers as journalists. That I can understand. While some journalists are bloggers not all bloggers are journalist (remember the mommy bloggers escapades?) That said, I can’t believe no one from Samsung’s in-house communications raised the red flag about treating people this way.… Read more »
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @Keena Lykins  @HowieG From what I can tell with the email exchanges, it was the in-house comms team who did this. It just makes me shake my head.

Keena Lykins
Keena Lykins
3 years 10 months ago

 @ginidietrich  @HowieG Someone should be fired, then. Any PR/Comm person with even an ounce of sense should have known better.

HowieG
3 years 10 months ago

 @Keena Lykins  @ginidietrich if this was China couldn’t they just kill the employees like Lanier-Upshaw did in 1968 when the mob took over the Florida insurance industry? @bdorman264 is a made man ya know.

katrinakaye
katrinakaye
3 years 10 months ago

RT @JavierArronis Samsung Threatens Bloggers and Provides a Valuable Lesson http://t.co/jGlcLLqJ vía @spinsucks #crisispr

JavierArronis
JavierArronis
3 years 10 months ago

@katrinakaye Thank you greatly for the RT, Katrina! Much appreciated.

katrinakaye
katrinakaye
3 years 10 months ago

@JavierArronis You’re welcome, Javier!

bdorman264
3 years 10 months ago

You know me, if there were food and drink I would show up in a clown suit……or Speedo if that is what it took. And you want me to say what? How loud? 
 
Good point, sounds pretty heavy handed especially if they were going to get stranded. Probably not going to get the publicity they wanted after a situation like that.
 
Communication is key; establishing your role, what the expectations are and what it looks like before you even get on the plane. Sounds pretty simple………apparently not…………
 
 

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @bdorman264 I know for a fact you show up in a Speedo if there is free food and drink…and you’ll even pay for your own!

belllindsay
belllindsay
3 years 10 months ago

 @ginidietrich  @bdorman264 Whoa. How did I miss *that* night? 

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @belllindsay  @bdorman264 We were in Florida. He wouldn’t let me take pictures.

bdorman264
3 years 10 months ago

 @belllindsay  @ginidietrich Let’s just say I fell into the water with my phone so that killed the whole ‘tweet-up’ concept for me, and the water was kind of chilly……………:). 

belllindsay
belllindsay
3 years 10 months ago

 @bdorman264  @ginidietrich HA! “I was in the POOL!!” Classic. 

jennwhinnem
jennwhinnem
3 years 10 months ago

 @ginidietrich  @belllindsay  @bdorman264 WHOA

HowieG
3 years 10 months ago

 @ginidietrich  @bdorman264 I am supposedly being asked to be a Tampa Bay Rays Brand Ambassador and being made a bat boy as long as I tweet and blog.

bdorman264
3 years 10 months ago

 @HowieG  @ginidietrich ……and quit saying social media is a bubble………….

LouHoffman
LouHoffman
3 years 10 months ago
Watching this train wreck from afar raises a bigger issue– Many big brands, particularly those from the consumer sphere, are still struggling with the intersection of PR and digital (including social media), a struggle that becomes more pronounced in emerging markets. Consider what Samsung has achieved with its brand over the past 10 years or so. I think it’s fair to call the results spectacular. Sophisticated. Huge investment. Stayed the course. Yet, even when doing so many things right a company can look like a buffoon without some type of governing mechanism over its worldwide effort. As Samsung experienced the… Read more »
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @LouHoffman You raise a very good point. It’s already difficult to protect your brand globally and now you have to think about it online, as well as offline. Ug. Not a job I would want.

TheJackB
3 years 10 months ago
Culture is certainly a big part of the equation but I can tell you from personal experience that many of the pitches I receive essentially ask me to either work for free or to pay to be a part of the “wonderful company” they want me to write about.   One of the reasons I agreed to become a brand ambassador for Nintendo is because of how we are treated. We are not required to write about any of the products/services/experiences we are provided with and if we do there is no push back for posts that are critical.  … Read more »
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @TheJackB It sounds like Nintendo is doing it right…and so are you. And, let’s be real, who wouldn’t want to be a Nintendo brand ambassador??

HowieG
3 years 10 months ago

 @ginidietrich  @TheJackB well Microsoft and Sony employees might say no to being a Super Mario wonk.
 
But I am curious Jack. Were you a huge Nintendo fan to start before becoming a brand ambassador? I always thought you found the super fans and got them to become your ambassador. Because I am thinking I might put my Brand Ambassadorship for Spin Sucks up for bid maybe to Chris Voss or American Apparel. I never even got a Gini Dietrich T-Shirt. I been doing this all wrong I see.

thejoshuawilner
3 years 10 months ago

 @HowieG @ginidietrich 
 
No, I was not a huge Nintendo fan. I don’t know all of the reasons they had for asking me, but I know for certain much had to do with my presence in the dad/parent blog community.

rdopping
rdopping
3 years 10 months ago

 @TheJackB You wrote more than 1 sentence. Waddup?

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saratweetshere
saratweetshere
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich Wow. That is shocking. Maybe things don’t transfer internationally as well.

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@saratweetshere I think it’s a cultural thing, but also a transparency thing

tanyagm
tanyagm
3 years 10 months ago
This is spot on.  What’s disappointing is that brands ‘don’t get it’.  It seems somewhat elementary to say, but isn’t this common sense? Bloggers=journalists (esp in this example) Brand Ambassadors = not journalists.  Having a clear set of intentions/expectations for those who willingly represent your brand (bloggers or otherwise) is a clear path to more productive relations; between the brand and the ambassador/or blogger and the larger audience.  This communication breakdown, and the assumptions that underlie it, are the kind of thing that is making ‘social relations’ in the online world for brands so challenging [for them].  A lot of… Read more »
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @tanyagm You know what’s funny about common sense? It’s not so common! Oh wait…you said that. 🙂

tanyagm
tanyagm
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich Great post Gini. http://t.co/FKWasycU

karenswim
karenswim
3 years 10 months ago

@ruthdfw good point from the other side to get terms, in writing and know what you’re signing up for cc @SpinSucks

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@jonbuscall Jon, I miss you. Twitter is evading me lately. You good?

jonbuscall
jonbuscall
3 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich Goodish. How bout you?

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

@jonbuscall I’m pretty good. Bummed it’s raining so no outdoor ride today. But good, other than that!

jelenawoehr
3 years 10 months ago

Cultural differences or no, there’s not a culture in the world where companies that lie to the “little guy” get respect for it. If it’s true that they told these bloggers they were going as “reporters,” then threatened them when they expected to act as reporters, Samsung is 100% in the wrong, regardless of where the bloggers came from.

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @jelenawoehr Did you happen to read the public apology from Samsung and then the email exchange with one of the bloggers? They can’t just help themselves. Transparency is clearly an issue.

AlinaKelly
AlinaKelly
3 years 10 months ago

Big Brand Bullying = BAD
Is that the brand positioning Samsung is after? Mobile bully? It’s hard to believe that a corporation this size would allow this kind of behaviour from anyone in its ranks. It really makes me question their management. 
Thanks for calling it out.

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @AlinaKelly It’s surprising to me, too. It’s hard to believe leadership is so far removed from day-to-day operations that this stuff is allowed to go on, but rumor has it it was three days before the Samsung CEO found out they lost the Apple suit. That one blows my mind, but I guess it explains how this stuff happens.

AlinaKelly
AlinaKelly
3 years 10 months ago

 @ginidietrich If that rumor is true, I think we can see trouble on the horizon unless this outfit regroups and gets some solid leadership in place. There’s no room for that kind of corporate disconnect in such a competitive environment. RIM anyone?

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @AlinaKelly Ha! No kidding. I just can’t imagine being that far removed. You have a MAJOR lawsuit and it takes you three days to learn the outcome? Do you not read the papers?

AlinaKelly
AlinaKelly
3 years 10 months ago

 @ginidietrich Maybe if he had an iPad, the CEO could get more timely news updates? If the lawsuit wasn’t high on the CEO’s priority list what was? 

bhas
3 years 10 months ago

 @AlinaKelly  @ginidietrich I still think it’s something someone floated for shits and giggles. I would want to see some reputed source talk about this. It so does not square with Samsung as a company that makes great personal tech products

AlinaKelly
AlinaKelly
3 years 10 months ago

 @bhas  @ginidietrich You know I agree with you about the great products. And even if the lawsuit rumor is a joke, the treatment of the bloggers is not. It speaks to a lack of brand consistency in the organization and that will not work for them long term. They can’t afford that kind of “mistake” – if that’s what it was. 

ladylaff
ladylaff
3 years 10 months ago

That is not only bad practice and bad manners, it genuinely creates business risk and for that reason should raise a bright red flag to an HR department.  If you expect these people to represent the company, you might have to accept responsibility for them and their actions. What if the blogger was injured on the stand, or harrassed by a Samsung employee?  What if a blogger decided to get drunk on the stand and spout obsencities to passing trade?  You get the idea.  It just ain’t clever.

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @ladylaff You raise a good point. Where IS HR in all of this? Warren Buffet once said he’d be forgiving if you lost money for his company, but ruthless if you lost reputation for it. I think a lot of organizations could live by that creed.

rdopping
rdopping
3 years 10 months ago

Those Samsung guys suck. Written on my Samsung Note.

ginidietrich
3 years 10 months ago

 @rdopping Oy.

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