Gini Dietrich

Trolls, Smear Campaigns, and Reputation Management

By: Gini Dietrich | October 18, 2012 | 
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I am a big fan of The Good Wife. Not only because it’s set in Chicago, but because it’s really well-written (and, let’s be real, Mr. Big is on it).

My winter training has begun, which means I’m stuck on the trainer for one or two hours four times a week. The Good Wife (and Revenge and Scandal) get me through those long boring hours.

This past week (not a spoiler if you haven’t see it), there is a lawsuit against an Internet search engine because they dropped a company’s rankings from the first to 28th page in results. All because the company wouldn’t buy advertising with the Internet giant. Choosing, instead, to invest that money into staff.

A little far-fetched in today’s world, but it goes to show how important reputation management is online and what can happen if one person, organization, or group decides they’re going to take you on…and they have deeper pockets and more resources.

Trolls are Alive and Well

A good example of this is Scott Van Duzer, the pizza restaurant owner who hugged President Obama during a campaign stop.

But once word got out Van Duzer is a registered Republican who voted for Obama in 2008 and is planning to do so again next month, angry conservatives flooded his restaurant’s Yelp page with negative reviews and began staging a boycott.

Even if they’d never been there.

A sample gem:

Notice the reviewer is from New York? The restaurant – and Van Duzer – are in Florida.

The story ends well in that real patrons of the restaurant came to Van Duzer’s defense on Yelp and posted so many good reviews, they knocked the bad ones down. And it’s reported sales are up for the pizza maker.

But not everyone is so lucky.

Smear Campaigns Exist

Sri Lankan hip hop artist, DeLon, was recently forced to resign as the opening act for Lindsey Stirling, an America’s Got Talent artist.

Why?

In 2008 (yes, four years ago), DeLon called out M.I.A., another Sri Lanken artist, for her implied support of  terrorist group the Tamil Tigers (or LTTE).

She accused DeLon of doing it for publicity and he paid a high price for taking a political stand, including death threats and a vicious Internet smear campaign created to ruin his reputation.

Tamil Tigers supporters even went as far as to fabricate and spread a news story claiming DeLon had been arrested in Thailand for unthinkable acts against children.

Although the Sri Lankan government confirmed these reports were lies and DeLon has worked to clear his name, he had to quit the tour because,

Fans, sponsors, and parents who took their kids to his concert were a Google search away from believing he was a criminal.

Reputation Management

These are the types of stories that concern business leaders when we talk about the pros and cons of using the web for business growth.

Understandably, they don’t want people posting negative things about them or their companies online. So they take the ostrich approach instead. If they can’t see it, it doesn’t exist.

But people are posting things about you online, even if you’re not participating or listening to what is being said.

Trolls and smear campaigns don’t happen to most businesses, but it’s no longer an option to ignore.

If there are negative things being said about you online, those things last forever on Google. You can’t erase them.

But you can begin to rebuild your reputation by working with brand ambassadors, creating extremely valuable content, and collecting testimonials.

Those types of things will push the negative reviews down in the Google search results, providing you the opportunity to change the conversation.

But one note of caution: If your customer service sucks or operations are whack or you don’t deliver on time, it won’t matter how much you do to help your positive reviews, from a PR perspective.

Get your business model fixed first so people aren’t enraged. Then a good reputation management program will help.

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About Gini Dietrich


Gini Dietrich is the founder and CEO of Arment Dietrich, an integrated marketing communications firm. She is the author of Spin Sucks, co-author of Marketing in the Round, and co-host of Inside PR. She also is the lead blogger at Spin Sucks and is the founder of Spin Sucks Pro.

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KenMueller
3 years 11 months ago

I’ve seen these sorts of things happen on the local level, and it can get pretty ugly. Don’t people have better things to do with their time?

ginidietrich
3 years 11 months ago

@KenMueller I guess they don’t. I know I do, but (as we all know) I’m not normal.

KenMueller
3 years 11 months ago

@ginidietrich I’m not sure what normal is anymore.

magriebler
magriebler
3 years 11 months ago

@KenMueller They need a hobby. Or a keeper.

Erin F.
3 years 11 months ago

@magriebler  @KenMueller We should think of a suitable title for the brave soul who acts as the keeper.

ginidietrich
3 years 11 months ago

@Erin F.  @magriebler  @KenMueller I think Ken should be the keeper.

magriebler
magriebler
3 years 11 months ago

@Erin F.  @KenMueller That would contain too many “swears,” as my little brother used to say.

KenMueller
3 years 11 months ago

@magriebler  @Erin F. I will not be a troll keeper. I’d have to spend too much time around @ginidietrich

SandeeJackson
SandeeJackson
3 years 11 months ago
Great post — Certainly, the anonymity the web offers (some of) us has given rise to trolls. I think they are generally people who wouldn’t say / write the things they do without the comfort of a monitor and keyboard. Still, if businesses do their best to fulfill their brand promises, it does seem to help cut down on trolls and haters – though we know you can’t please everyone! It’s definitely a multi-step that involves doing good work in the first place, practicing active social listening and addressing it quickly (and wisely) when you do see something that could… Read more »
ginidietrich
3 years 11 months ago

@SandeeJackson Very true. Most people who post negative things about your organization just want to be heard. If others see you publicly address the issue, they’ll come to your defense when a troll keeps hounding you. It’s human nature to stick up for the people we like. So give them a reason to stick up for you!

DaveThackeray
DaveThackeray
3 years 11 months ago

@ginidietrich they all own gnomes that look like Charlie Sheen?

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
3 years 11 months ago

@DaveThackeray Very good guess!

belllindsay
belllindsay
3 years 11 months ago

“….or operations are whack” ? I think @ginidietrich has been listening to too much M.I.A.! ;D

ginidietrich
3 years 11 months ago

@belllindsay I was wondering if anyone buy my mom would notice that. LOL!

jasonkonopinski
3 years 11 months ago

Well, you know my perspectives on trolls. 🙂

ginidietrich
3 years 11 months ago

@jasonkonopinski Because you are one?

KristenDaukas
3 years 11 months ago

I have nothing to add to this conversation except that The Good Wife is my favorite show. Kalinda is my inspiration 😉

thejoshuawilner
3 years 11 months ago

@KristenDaukas After watching her and her husband I don’t know whether to say wow or I am scared. 😉

ginidietrich
3 years 11 months ago

@thejoshuawilner  @KristenDaukas Right? I want to kick her husband in the face. I think he’s going to end up dead by the end of the season.

FocusedWords
FocusedWords
3 years 11 months ago

@ginidietrich  @thejoshuawilner  @KristenDaukas Makes sense to me.  Then Alicia can defend Kalinda while campaigning for her husband.  What a plot line!!

stevenmcoyle
3 years 11 months ago

Revenge and Scandal are awesome!!!! Great examples. Yelp reviews are always tricky.

ginidietrich
3 years 11 months ago

@stevenmcoyle Aren’t they good?? It took me a few episodes to get into Scandal, but now I can’t stop!

thejoshuawilner
3 years 11 months ago

Not much to add other than if you have a business you are better off trying to funnel the conversation to your online outposts where you can try and manage the conversation.
 
Can’t kill the trolls but you can demonstrate to the lurkers the trolls are wrong or misguided.

ginidietrich
3 years 11 months ago

@thejoshuawilner Totally agree! And it’s kind of fun to watch the lurkers and brand ambassadors squash the trolls. No, it’s really fun.

stevesonn
stevesonn
3 years 11 months ago

Excellent advice! One of the great things about social media is that it gives people a voice. Yet, one of the bad things about social media is that it opens the door to unfair smear campaigns that can garner significant negative attention. Brands can’t afford to sit on the sides but need to be actively engaged in managing their reputations online, or someone else will do that for them.

ginidietrich
3 years 11 months ago

@stevesonn I don’t know about you, but I’d MUCH rather know what someone is saying so I could respond than to pretend it doesn’t exist.

FocusedWords
FocusedWords
3 years 11 months ago

Maybe I’m way off base, but I see the Trolls as an opportunity.  In the case of the pizza restaurant, most of them were obvious in their lack of real knowledge of the business and therefore are easy to repute.  The opportunity is to show that you are open to criticism even if it is way off base, answer the trolls concern and invite your loyal followers to prove the troll wrong.  (I LOVE social media!)

ginidietrich
3 years 11 months ago

@FocusedWords That’s because you get it. Most business leaders are so scared someone is going to say something negative. When you talk to them about it, from the perspective of unhappy customers who traditionally tell a handful of friends, it’s a little more bearable. But the idea that it can spread like wildfire is pretty frightening to them.

FocusedWords
FocusedWords
3 years 11 months ago

@ginidietrich Thank you!!

FocusedWords
FocusedWords
3 years 11 months ago

@ginidietrich Thank You!!  It’s much easier to highlight your positives when you are responding to a negative than the other way around.  When someone compliments your business about all you can say without sounding egotistical is Thank You; but with a negative comment you can pull out all the customer service skills and show the world that not only are you interested in this one individual but that you are interested in all your clients.

ginidietrich
3 years 11 months ago

@FocusedWords I had dinner with a friend last night who complimented me on my ability to diffuse criticism online. He said he was reading the reviews on Marketing in the Round and was really impressed at how I handled it. I said, “Well, I’m a PR person. I’d better know how to handle it.” But it’s really because I’m like you – I see it as as opportunity to move the conversation in a different direction.

FocusedWords
FocusedWords
3 years 11 months ago

@ginidietrich OOOHHHH!!!  I’m going to cut this out and frame it!  Gini Dietrich said she was like me!!!!  (All kidding aside, I’m honored.)

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
3 years 11 months ago

@CiviliNation Thanks!

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
3 years 11 months ago

@ljcrest Thanks, love!

ljcrest
ljcrest
3 years 11 months ago

@ginidietrich You’re most welcome, dove! 🙂 Great post!

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
3 years 11 months ago

@sierratierra I feel sorry for DeLon!

sierratierra
sierratierra
3 years 11 months ago

@ginidietrich Me too — esp. after all the political rants that M.I.A. spews!

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
3 years 11 months ago

@sierratierra And then pretends she’s doing nothing wrong

lauraclick
3 years 11 months ago
When I worked for the court system, I talked to judges and courts all over the country about reputation management and social media. Unfortunately, the judicial system has a big tendency to take the ostrich approach – mostly because they feel they have to remain neutral and unbiased. Although judges and court systems can’t really respond to all of the negative (and often completely untrue) comments out there, they CAN educate the community and share the good things they are doing to offset all of the bad stuff.   I had a slide in my presentation with a girl shouting… Read more »
ginidietrich
3 years 11 months ago

@lauraclick That’s EXACTLY the point. I’d much rather know what people are saying than pretend it’s not happening.

ljcrest
ljcrest
3 years 11 months ago

@MattCarracino Hey you! Thanks so much for the RT of @ginidietrich ‘s post @SpinSucks — good one, no? Appreciate it much-ly 😉

MattCarracino
MattCarracino
3 years 11 months ago

@ljcrest #reputationmanagement is such a hot topic and so important, thxs for sharing and you’re welcome much-ly 🙂

ljcrest
ljcrest
3 years 11 months ago

@MattCarracino 🙂 Much-ly

fitbizbyjoyce
fitbizbyjoyce
3 years 11 months ago

@forfeng ironic in “GW” is that in trying to manipulate perception led to bigger problems. Always act w/integrity online & luv Chris Noth!

forfeng
forfeng
3 years 11 months ago

@fitbizbyjoyce I agree the majority of the time

fitbizbyjoyce
fitbizbyjoyce
3 years 11 months ago

@forfeng about integrity online or Chris Noth?

forfeng
forfeng
3 years 11 months ago

@fitbizbyjoyce meant things like normally would not comment on political or other (like I did about @nickgriffinmep) but sometimes

gayanemar
gayanemar
3 years 11 months ago

RT @ginidietrich Protecting your online reputation when things go horribly wrong http://t.co/AABz8lri

jasondyk
jasondyk
3 years 11 months ago

Is there a good definition of troll anywhere? Online reputation is huge, and only becoming more and more important to be aware of how to manage it.  One thing that strikes me with the pizza place is the preventative side of crisis/reputation management – It’s “easier” to combat bad reviews, crisis situations, etc. if you already have an engaged community that knows, likes, and trusts you.

ginidietrich
3 years 11 months ago

@jasondyk Here’s one!
 
OK…not really.

Veribo
3 years 11 months ago

You raised one of the most important points about online reputation management that many people don’t realise – You can’t just remove the ‘bad stuff’ from Google because you don’t like it. Trolling on the internet or the use of negative reviews to market your own brand is insidious, but for the most part we tend to ignore it. For the small business owner though it can have a massive impact on their bottom line if they don’t react immediately.

ginidietrich
3 years 11 months ago

@Veribo AND, even if you do awesome work and you have that one negative review on page one of search results, it can really harm your business.

Veribo
3 years 11 months ago

@ginidietrich You’ve nailed it exactly. For the small business owner or professionals, like doctors, plumbers, lawyers etc, it can be the death knell of an up and coming business. We always encourage clients to ‘stay alert’ and continually monitor review sites in their geographic and business area so that they are able to respond immediately. You’re so right – it just takes ONE negative review to hurt a business.

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
3 years 11 months ago

@MattCarracino Thanks Matt!

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3 years 11 months ago

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wickedjava
wickedjava
3 years 11 months ago

@geoffliving sounds like last weekend

geoffliving
geoffliving
3 years 11 months ago

@wickedjava Hahahahahahaha! Sounds like my week.

wickedjava
wickedjava
3 years 11 months ago

@geoffliving lol so we had an awesome week lol

cweinbren
cweinbren
3 years 11 months ago

@DeLonMusic That sucks man I am almost got fooled myself. But Karma is everything

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rideboulderco
3 years 11 months ago
@ginidietrich this is really good and quite scary point. It’s been game-changing in many ways to re balance the power between customers and companies but in so many other ways the end result seems to be more about dragging someone through the mud than improving an experience or simply sharing a complaint.  To some extent, I don’t believe anonymous postings should be supported. If you’re going to go after an individual or company’s professional reputation then I think think who you are should be transparent and available. After all, you can’t cash a check without ID, you shouldn’t be able… Read more »
ginidietrich
3 years 11 months ago

@rideboulderco I totally agree with you on anonymous postings. It’s why I’m so OCD about moderating those people out of here. If you have something critical to say, by all means say it. But do it to my face. Don’t hide behind some anonymous avatar.

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