Gini Dietrich

What Is Public Relations? We Have a Perception Issue

By: Gini Dietrich | November 2, 2011 | 
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Last week Heather Whaling wrote a blog post called Dear PR Pro, Is PR Just Professional BSing?

The gist of it is that she was teaching a college course and one of the students said her family and friends thinks she’s going in to a field to professionally BS.

If you’re in PR, you’ve heard this from your friends and family. I remember when Wag the Dog came out and my mom called, after seeing it, and said, “Boy! They don’t make your profession look good.”

Um, no.

So we’re accustomed to either people responding that way or glazing over when we say what we do (that happened to me at a dinner party on Saturday night).

Unfortunately what we do is not tangible. You can’t hold, touch, or feel most of what we do. So people think it’s spin or black magic or professional BSing.

At the end of Heather’s blog post, she said something that stopped me in my tracks.

She said:

This conversation (with the student) got me thinking … and then I started wondering whether we spend too much time focused on defending our industry, instead of just producing high-quality work.

The problem is not that we spend too much time focused on defending our industry. The irony is that our industry has a terrible reputation because we don’t do enough PR for ourselves.

Sure, if every, single PR professional stopped spinning and spamming and did high-quality work, the industry would have a shining reputation. But that’s not practical and a bit naive.

Four years ago, I was at a PRSA senior leader’s event around the holidays. The speaker was the CEO of one of the big PR firm holding companies. During his speech, he actually uttered the words that it is our job to do whatever it takes for the client, even if it’s spin the truth.

Fortunately four years ago I was still a bit intimidated by people in power so I didn’t publicly debate him (and this blog didn’t have the traffic it has now or I would have skewered him). But I did question him (once) before two friends were smart enough to physically remove me from the room.

But my point is this…until we have leaders at the very, very top in the biggest and most powerful firms and corporate senior leaders at the Fortune 500 companies who really get it – I mean really get it – we’ll always have a perception issue.

Until then, or until the handful of us who really believe we can change the perception are in those positions (don’t worry; I’ll get there), it absolutely is up to us to defend our industry, to proactively do our own PR, and to continue doing high-quality work so that outshines the bad.

About Gini Dietrich


Gini Dietrich is the founder and CEO of Arment Dietrich, an integrated marketing communications firm. She is the author of Spin Sucks, co-author of Marketing in the Round, and co-host of Inside PR. She also is the lead blogger at Spin Sucks and is the founder of Spin Sucks Pro.

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BasicBlogTips
BasicBlogTips
4 years 10 months ago

Hi @ginidietrich @hackmanj just listened to your latest interview. Great stuff. Thanks!!

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@BasicBlogTips That’s nice of you to say. Thanks! @hackmanj

jasonkonopinski
4 years 10 months ago

I feel like I continually having this argument with friends and family about what it is that I do. As long as the big PR holding firms continue to have this sort of mindset, it’ll continue to be an uphill battle.

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@jasonkonopinski And then Spin Sucks Pro will launch and take off and soon the old mindset will change.

jasonkonopinski
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich Yessssssss.

Lisa Gerber
4 years 10 months ago

@jasonkonopinski@ginidietrich YESSSSSSSSSSS

KenMueller
4 years 10 months ago

And this isn’t just a PR problem. There are a lot of professions that have this perception issues, and in most cases it’s their own fault. Politics, law, etc. We need to raise the bar, keep pushing, keep doing things the right way, and teaching students (future practitioners) that it DOES matter. I told my students that the moment they get out there, there will be pressure to take shortcuts and do things that are “business as usual”, but unless they resist, noting will change.

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@KenMueller When you start out in the industry, you’re given the task of media relations. And, where I “grew up,” nothing was thought of mass distribution. I mean, we spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to send bottles of juice to media who hadn’t asked for it. The idea shames me today.

KenMueller
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich That’s why we need to do a better job of preparing students. We teach the principles and the basics, but not the reality of what they will face. Pretty scary.

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@KenMueller How do you, though, prepare them to tell their boss, in their first job, that that isn’t the way things should be done?

KenMueller
4 years 10 months ago
@ginidietrich I think part of it is just making them aware that they WILL face it. And unfortunately, that’s the hard part. Ethics would dictate walking away from jobs, but in this economy, and right out of college, is that too much to ask? If you speak up, then you’re branded as a troublemaker and malcontent, and it just perpetuates things. But at least we need to make them aware of what REALLY goes on out there, and hopefully soon there will be more agencies like AD where they can seek out employment. Hopefully more people like you will begin… Read more »
HowieSPM
4 years 10 months ago

@KenMueller@ginidietrich politics. I love how when most people are asked do they trust congress they all say no. But then ask about their own rep and often they say they like the job they are doing.

crgilvr
crgilvr
4 years 10 months ago

When we do a great job, it’s invisible (particularly in crisis communications). When we do a poor job, it’s all over the headlines. This feeds ‘confirmation bias’ that PR is an unethical, shady process.

jasonkonopinski
4 years 10 months ago

@crgilvr Huh. I hadn’t thought of it like that – but you’re right!

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@crgilvr It’s kind of like SEO…people think it’s black magic. But, if done really well, it’s ethical AND valuable.

KenMueller
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich@crgilvr You could throw Social Media in there as well.

jasonkonopinski
4 years 10 months ago

@KenMueller@ginidietrich@crgilvr Well, there’s a reason that many have skewed world views about what social media really can do, thanks to ‘tree-hugging social media purists’ (a phrase playfully presented by Jason Falls in his new book). Yes, conversations matter. Yes, businesses need to be social – but we really don’t know how to do that (yet) at a deep philosophical level.

KenMueller
4 years 10 months ago

@jasonkonopinski@ginidietrich@crgilvr That’s the point Gini has made here. The reason we have a perception problem in any of these areas is because of what some in each of these areas continue to do, whether it be PR, SM, or SEO. And I think most small businesses DO know how to be social, because they do it everyday in the brick and mortar world. It’s just a matter of translating that to digital, but they have been so preconditioned by marketing and advertising, that their approach is wrong.

HowieSPM
4 years 10 months ago

@jasonkonopinski@KenMueller@ginidietrich@crgilvr Jason you read business books? Not sure we can be buddies now. 8)

HowieSPM
4 years 10 months ago

@KenMueller@jasonkonopinski@ginidietrich@crgilvr the reason marketing and advertising has preconditioned small business is because they want to be needed and paid, even if they aren’t needed! And many professions are like this.

patrickreyes
patrickreyes
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich Good morning, Gini!

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@patrickreyes Insanity?!

patrickreyes
patrickreyes
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich Not this morning! Boo!

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@patrickreyes It’s been nice out so I’ve been riding instead

patrickreyes
patrickreyes
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich I don’t blame you! Might as well enjoy it before winter!

patrickreyes
patrickreyes
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich P90X?

jeffespo
jeffespo
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich do you defend with a sword or a gun?

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@jeffespo My fists

jeffespo
jeffespo
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich I am now scared because of your reach and fear the wrath

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@jeffespo Puh-lease. You’ve met me. You know I’m harmless.

jeffespo
jeffespo
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich hahaha but I can see the mean streak and I am tiny

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@jeffespo True. I could probably take you

jeffespo
jeffespo
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich bring it sister

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@jeffespo You don’t scare me!

jeffespo
jeffespo
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich I know I am a midget

joshsternberg
joshsternberg
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich sad that this discussion in an annual one. maybe we should have governing laws, higher barrier to entry, etc?

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@joshsternberg I think we should. It’s a discussion I have often with PRSA. But they’re membership, not governing

joshsternberg
joshsternberg
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich i think PRSA, as it stands now, is pointless. There needs to be an ABA/AMA-type model, but that requires systemic change.

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@joshsternberg Maybe you and I can change it??!

joshsternberg
joshsternberg
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich I’m in. First step – defining PR? HA!

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@joshsternberg And then on to measuring resuls

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@joshsternberg Or results

joshsternberg
joshsternberg
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich would also need rules/regulations for not only practitioners, but also schools.

KeithTrivitt
KeithTrivitt
4 years 10 months ago
Gini, you rightly note that it is up to all that work in public relations to defend the industry’s value, and enhance that value through high-quality work. As you and your readers know, it is something we have been working hard on for several years now at PRSA through our “Business Case for Public Relations” initiative (http://ow.ly/7gwaO), but also through general advocacy efforts and a more proactive and robust outreach campaign to the business community and others who use and could derive value from public relations’ services. Your point about the industry needing more Fortune 500 PR execs who “really… Read more »
ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@KeithTrivitt Sure, Keith, there are really great practitioners at the Fortune 10 companies. Beth Comstock (even though CMO) at GE is another example. But they’re few and far between. And, from my own experience, I know they don’t exist at the highest level of the global PR firms. They exist one level below, but typically the people running the holding companies are attorneys, not communication professionals. And that makes a huge difference.

Soulati | PR
4 years 10 months ago

Do you know of any successful corporate PR pros at Avon, H-P and Netflix? Because that’s where they need to get a job. I don’t recall seeing FedEx or GE publicly gaffing and flip-flopping corporate messages; the rest ought to take lessons from Messrs. Sheffer and Margaritis. @KeithTrivitt

Sean McGinnis
4 years 10 months ago

Frankly, I’m a bit sick of hearing about this issue. Perception problems exist among every profession I can think of, and each is tainted by the worst within its ranks. Quick, tell me what you think of when I mention the following professions? What image jumps into your mind?

PR

Sales

Lawyers

CPA’s

Wall Street Bankers

Actors

Customer Service / Account Managers

Doctors

Flight Attendants

Politicians

etc, etc, etc…

Show me a professional that does not have a perception issue, and I’ll show you a professional that has not been around long enough to develop one (yet).

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@Sean McGinnis I’m sick of it, too. But it clearly needs to be defined, defended, and proactively worked on. That’s why the vision of Spin Sucks Pro is to change the perception of the PR and marketing industries. We’re going to do it through education and advocating for the highest quality work.

Lisa Gerber
4 years 10 months ago

@Sean McGinnis Well sure there are perception issues in every profession, and in every walk of life, for that matter, but we are in the business of reputation management. We should be the best at it for our own industry.

HowieSPM
4 years 10 months ago
@Lisa Gerber@Sean McGinnis@ginidietrich Sean you are correct. We have imbedded in our societal structure incentives to behave this way vs incentives to be ethical. How many whistle blowers get fired, ostracized or abused at work after? I mean the fact Diffusion of Responsibility removes a lot of people’s accountability (this is why good people will riot or a crime victim in a crowd not get any help or to extremes think old Soviet KGB where neighbors spied on each other or even Nazi germany or the US slaughter of the natives or the US people not caring about what our… Read more »
Nic_Cartwright
4 years 10 months ago
@Sean McGinnis agreed – you beat me to it – though I qualified as an accountant and they also cop some stick (boring?? moi???) – although CPA might be that (is that the US term?) If you believe public percpetion of any industry – you are going to have a problem. The trick for leaders is to use your own mind/experiences to judge each book by its cover and make decisions accordingly…… For what it’s worth – of the industrys I have met – PR professionals do actually tend to be amongst the nicest/best to work with – maybe they… Read more »
ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@Nic_Cartwright It would be you have a stick up your (not nice word) bum.

Nic_Cartwright
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich Not the crazy cats I know….!!!

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@Nic_Cartwright LOL!

Nic_Cartwright
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich Man – I remember those Accountancy after work parties… We would rocking till 6 maybe 7pm at times…. Outta control….

OK – so I just played the generalization game like we are trying to avoid. Bad Nic!!

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@Nic_Cartwright Our CFO is one of my most favorite people on earth. He went to an accounting happy hour a couple of weeks ago. About 15 minutes into the party, he texted me, “Please come save me.”

Nic_Cartwright
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich LOL – Accounting Happy Hour – the bar owner just set that up to bring in the ladies….!!

Some of my best friends are accountants – actually 1 of them is. I also was best man for 2 bankers and a lawyer – all preconceptions eh!!!

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@Nic_Cartwright That, literally, made me laugh out loud!

rickbanas
rickbanas
4 years 10 months ago

I would have loved to have been there to ask the CEO where ethics and integrity come into play. Does he really view his role as a professional consultant when he comes across as a lackey who takes and fills orders. How would he view a Professional Consultant who does Market Studies for proposed assisted living communities saying the results should reflect what the client wants the outcome to be versus what reality says it should be.

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@rickbanas It’s a good thing you weren’t there with me! We would have gotten ourselves in trouble.

rustyspeidel
rustyspeidel
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich@rickbanas Why? Why defer to enablers??

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@rustyspeidel Like I said, back then I was intimidated by that type of power. Today I wouldn’t keep my mouth shut.

HowieSPM
4 years 10 months ago
I am going to re-title this by replacing PR with advertising. The difference I think is that people expect corporations to blatantly lie when it comes to PR and perception. Tobacco doesn’t cause cancer. Hydrofracking is safe.Tiger Woods isn’t a pig male. Bankers aren’t greedy. Car emissions don’t cause pollution or global climate change. Walmart isn’t an abusive employer or abusive sourcer using child labor to make cheap goods. BTW did you see BP got the go ahead to drill an even more dangerous and deeper well in the Gulf? Advertising is different. What is at stake is so much… Read more »
ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@HowieSPM Can I borrow a Knockem Sockem Robot?

You make a great point about PR being the discipline able to change the way the conversation goes and what people are discussing. Part of the problem is so many companies just want bad things to go away so they approve the “whatever it takes” approach.

HowieSPM
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich it is human nature. Ask anyone who has had stress paying bills in their life. You take that letter and you hide it somewhere and make believe everything is fine. But there is a huge difference. I am ok with individuals being delusional in ways that only affect themselves. But when actions affect whole groups of people that is very unethical.

The worst part is CEO’s can hang on and make enough money so when they get booted they don’t care. I bet if there was a 5 year wage clawback they would behave differently.

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@HowieSPM Well…not all CEOs. This CEO very much stresses about cash flow and making payroll and things that are much too stressful for someone this pretty.

TheJackB
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich@HowieSPM Bah, I have one thing to say in response: HORSE HOCKEY.

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@TheJackB@HowieSPM LMAO!!!!

rustyspeidel
rustyspeidel
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich@HowieSPM Then maybe that should quit doing the bad things. The promise of social was that the customer would drive this change, but that hasn’t really happened yet.

rustyspeidel
rustyspeidel
4 years 10 months ago
The perception is that PR’s job is to promote and get people excited about whatever version of reality their clients want. What it sounds like you’re aiming for is a role that helps those clients find and communicate a path that is more positive, ethical, holistic, customer-centric, and socially beneficial. But a lot of companies don’t operate and can’t make money that way. Fracking, natural gas pipelines, oil and tobacco companies, McDonald’s, big banks, Wall Street–these are not industries that benefit from, shall we say, “transparency.” So how can you work with any of them and keep your reputation intact?… Read more »
ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@rustyspeidel We have a list of companies we won’t work with. More than half of your list is on our list. There are PR firms that will work in those industries…for the money and the “fame.” But I lead my company as an ethical one and, if a client wants us to do something unethical or not tell the whole truth, we fire them. I’ve done it several times in the past six years.

Soulati | PR
4 years 10 months ago
Dang. This goes hand in hand with my post today “Boing Boing Corporate PR.” You know I’d never promote myself here if it wasn’t relevant, and you were the first and only so far to lend a comment in support of this very issue (as above). We in PR are suffering from being relegated to the back room. Whether or not we have a seat at the table, our counsel is not getting heard; case in point at my house today. Are we being overridden my legal (happens all the time); are the boards of directors at the Fortune companies… Read more »
ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@Soulati | PR I think it comes down to something very simple: Until we learn how to measure our results to the BOTTOM LINE, we won’t have a seat at the table. When we do that – all of us – we’ll be able to not only have a seat, but be heard.

Nic_Cartwright
4 years 10 months ago

@Soulati | PR Gini is right re providing measurable value (vs Sales, vs the accountants etc) – but I always liked PR folk who had a real understanding of the business, of the issues more than just the PR side of things…. Understand what the business is doing and assist in its goals. Multi skilled folk are the way forward anyway…

The “Yes we know it won’t look good – but how do we do it anyway” Methodologies…..

ladylaff
ladylaff
4 years 10 months ago
Your anecdote about the PR CEO made me realise that there’s a whole faction of the industry that has reached the (IMHO flawed) conclusion that entitlement to PR is somehow comparable to entitlement to legal representation. Those people seem to believe that all companies should have access to the best PR advice possible, regardless of whether they have exploited child labour, dumped hazardous waste, hacked phones, or simply produced crappy products and services. But that’s just ridiculous. The idea all companies should have equal opportunity to SPIN (which,as we know SUCKS!) is ethically and morally WRONG because the only companies… Read more »
ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@ladylaff I’m reading a book (fiction) right now that is about a big NY based company that dumps all of their chemicals in a creek in southern Mississippi. The people who live in that town are dying of cancer nine times higher than the U.S. average. The company hires the best counsel – legal and communication – and they fight the little guy until they’re out of business. While it’s not a true story, it’s pretty indicative of these types of situations today.

KevinVandever
KevinVandever
4 years 10 months ago
Yes, I think it’ll take both: Positive PR for the PR industry and high quality work. One problem with that is that If the PR industry has a perception issue, the PR industry might be the last group who can successfully defend the PR industry. High quality work plus time might be better ways to change the perception. I realize that might seem a bit naive, but it is no different than any other industry. If the perception is that I am a lousy software developer, my putting in extra effort into defending myself, without doing the high quality work… Read more »
ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@KevinVandever I think there is a bigger issue at play, though. We can “mess” with people’s ethics, but we’re not governed. This is a conversation @KeithTrivitt and I have had a lot. Unfortunately, PRSA is a membership organization so they can’t govern the industry. I think that’s one of the few ways we can make sure these shoddy practices aren’t used.

KevinVandever
KevinVandever
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich@KeithTrivitt Good point. The consequence of disbarment, so to speak, for unethical behavior. That would certainly change the industry.

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@KevinVandever Exactly. Kind of what I want to do to you for hoarding wine.

KevinVandever
KevinVandever
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich It would take a very large effort on your part to pull off something like that. I’m very well-bared, you know.

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@KevinVandever Not any more! Don’t you know the power of Spin Sucks?!?

KevinVandever
KevinVandever
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich Know it? I’m counting on it. With that power comes greed and corruption and that’s where my wine bribes fit in.

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@KevinVandever I WANT WINE! I’ll PayPal you money now!

KevinVandever
KevinVandever
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich You want wine? Geesh, all you had to do was ask.

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@KevinVandever Grumble, grumble

rommel_romero
rommel_romero
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich I’d say: focus on high-quality work, then work hard on publicizing that good work. Goal: eventually, overwhelm spin.

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@rommel_romero Because…spin sucks! 🙂

rommel_romero
rommel_romero
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich Precisely! 🙂

suegrimm
suegrimm
4 years 10 months ago
I’ve never commented here before but this post raised an issue that’s been on my mind as I get to know you and others by reading your blogs. Your post is an example of something that reminds me why I love (and sometimes hate) the internet. There was a time not very long ago when leadership was only defined by those who could get attention through mainstream media and most of the time for doing the wrong thing. Then the government or industry groups would step in and try to regulate behavior and often get it wrong. Yes, it still… Read more »
ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@suegrimm Hi Sue! I’m glad you felt comfortable commenting. The people here are kind of nuts so beware…you’re on your way down! 🙂

I love this – WE have the opportunity to self-regulate. I wish I’d thought of that when I wrote the blog post this morning. It would have added a very valuable layer.

Any interest in taking this comment and turning it into a guest post? I think @Lisa Gerber would agree with me that it’s really good.

suegrimm
suegrimm
4 years 10 months ago

Oh my goodness. Gini I am well aware it’s nuts around here and now you are asking for me to put myself out there in a guest post? Yikes. My hands are sweating already. I’ll get in touch with Lisa after I think this through more 🙂

Lisa Gerber
4 years 10 months ago

@suegrimm Nothing like jumping right in from first comment to guest post!!! We are scheduling for end of December right now so do get in touch via email when you’re ready so we can at least put you in the calendar. lots of time!! lgerber at arment dietrich dot com.

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@suegrimm LMAO!! Great point…I guess I didn’t really sell that appropriately, did I?!?

Tinu
4 years 10 months ago

May I join in the chant? Guest post! Guest post! 🙂 @ginidietrich @suegrimm

jasonkonopinski
4 years 10 months ago

@suegrimm What an entrance! Wonderful points.

suegrimm
suegrimm
4 years 10 months ago

@jasonkonopinski@ginidietrich@Lisa Gerber Thanks. First time with this commenting system too!!! It’s all good. I took the advice I was given too far I guess. Don’t comment until you have something to say. It’s nice to meet you all and I look forward to more.

MrBallentine
MrBallentine
4 years 10 months ago
What also doesn’t help matters much is when traditional magazines publishers create headlines like, “Kim Kardashian Wedding…PR Stunt”. Headlines such as that, only further the association that public relations is used for “EVIL”… Anytime a celebrity apologizes, that’s another dent in the PR armor. Sadly, however, I think it has more to do with human nature and our tendency to focus on the negative more than positive examples. Plus, with all the high-quality work that is produced by so many in the industry, they’re like unsung heroes. With the exception of trade papers, they are never the mainstream story so… Read more »
ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

It’s funny you use that particular example because EVERYONE has been asking me if it was a publicity stunt. It disturbs me to think someone would spent nearly $20MM for more “fame.” But it works because, you’re right, as human beings we’re attracted to that kind of trash.

Our vision for Spin Sucks Pro really is to change the perception through education and giving people the tools and resources they need to do high-quality work. It may never happen in my lifetime, but I certainly want to be forging the path through my business.

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@lpiotto Thanks!

lpiotto
lpiotto
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich – My sincere pleasure. I’ve been reading #SpinSucks for a while. It’s time I gave you the credit you deserve.

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@lpiotto You made my day!

bowhite
bowhite
4 years 10 months ago

Couldn’t agree more Gini. When one of Australia’s most respected journalists took a swipe at the industry last week, I had to have a rant on my blog. There are so many people doing good work

You can read it here. http://gettingpastpr.wordpress.com/2011/10/31/what-gutenberg-can-teach-pr-people/

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@bowhite Oh thank you! I’ll stop by later!

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@PaulRobertsPAR Thanks!

ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@SuziMcCoyGMG It’s frustrating, isn’t it?

Tinu
4 years 10 months ago
Ironically, I never thought of PR as being a spin of the truth – I know some people use it that way. That just seems to be who those particular people are. Whenever I connected spin and PR, I thought of it as a company presenting their perspective in a way that completed whatever public perception was. But yes, in a war for clarity, there has to be both offensive and defensive strategy. It’s absolutely about doing PR for the PR industry, as much as its about doing good word. We all know build it and they will come is… Read more »
ginidietrich
ginidietrich
4 years 10 months ago

@belllindsay Morning!

belllindsay
belllindsay
4 years 10 months ago

@ginidietrich Morning! Loved your FB question of the day! 🙂

Shonali
4 years 10 months ago
Just doing good work is a huge part of the answer, I think. Yes, I do think we still have to defend it, but at the end of the day, one’s work speaks for itself. It also leaves a much longer-term impression, I think. dbreakenridge was kind enough to let me guest post for her the other day, and I posited that whether we have the word “teacher” (or “faculty,” or whatever) in our bios, we are teaching every day. We’re teaching clients, we’re teaching our colleagues, we’re teaching our audiences, we’re teaching the public. If we do a good… Read more »
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danohuang
danohuang
4 years 10 months ago

@dibegin man that’s sad but that’s perception. Lots of good PR folks who are professional and high integrity…bad apples make it hard.

dibegin
dibegin
4 years 10 months ago

@danohuang Yeah but not surprising.

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YasinAkgun
4 years 10 months ago

“This conversation (with the student) got me thinking … and then I started wondering whether we spend too much time focused on defending our industry, instead of just producing high-quality work.”

I recently bought a book by one an American lady who’s known as ‘one of the best things to happen in PR’. The first quarter of her book was immediate defending defending defending and justifying PR. In the end I gave up reading.

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