Every Friday since the pandemic shut things down in March (here in the U.S.), we’ve highlighted communicators and marketers who at first were trying to figure out which part of the sky just fell on them in My Hot Mess. Then we shifted to those who are crushing the pandemic with Survive & Thrive. Now it’s time to get back to business, even if it’s not totally normal. We’re going to do that with an Ask Me Anything series—an elevation of our previous Spin Sucks Question series.
Today, Megan Hayes asks, “Does anyone have a current definition they use of working vs. non-working dollars? Looking for a more modern definition. Curious how others define it in today’s digital world.”
Welcome back to another Ask Me Anything, which is a new series where we talk to our friends, our viewers, and our community. about what they would like to know. The whole point is to stump me. If I don’t know the answer, I will ask one of my smart friends to join me.
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Today’s question comes from Megan Hayes. She asks,
Does anyone have a current definition they use of working vs. non-working dollars? Looking for a more modern definition. Curious how others define it in today’s digital world.
I’d like to start by saying that my expertise is B2B so I look at everything through that lens. That’s not to say a similar approach won’t work for a consumer business, but the examples I use and the case studies I can talk through are very business-oriented.
The first thing is you want to consider that your non-working dollars are going to include things such as brand awareness, credibility, and expertise. The working dollars are the PR metrics, or the things you can measure.
There’s something to be said for awareness and reputation and all of the things that communications does naturally. And you have a fantastic opportunity to use digital communications to measure your work.
But that makes it really challenging because there isn’t a magical split between the two. Is it half? Is it 50%? Is it 60%?
We are going through this exact thing with one client right in this moment and we’re trying to figure out what the split is. We have no data yet so we’re taking a wild guess. I’d like it to be 100% working dollars, but the CMO disagrees (and he’s right…I guess).
We’ve settled on 65% metrics and 35% education, awareness, and credibility. For now. We’re building benchmarks to see if those number are correct and we’ll spend 75-90 days measuring and collecting data.
There are three things we know we have to measure:
For a website subscriber to be considered a win, from a marketing perspective, we have four requirements:
Because my expertise is B2B, I can ask for a list of prospects from a client so we know who we’re trying to reach.
We’ll upload that list into their marketing automation software, and tag them as prospects. That way, when they enter our system through our marketing efforts, it will show up in our reporting that a prospect subscribed to the blog or downloaded some content or filled out a form.
They then become a marketing lead.
From there, we have really specific goals in terms of the number of marketing leads we need to get each month. Like I mentioned above, we don’t have any way to predict that right now because we don’t have data, so we’re spending a bit of time (at least through year’s end) doing exactly that.
While we test, though, we’ve set a goal of 10 marketing leads for October. Fingers crossed!
But, to Megan’s initial question, what is the split between working and non-working dollars?
The answer, right now anyway, is 65% working and 35% non-working.
If you have a question that you’d like to stump me on or get one of my very smart friends to answer, drop a comment in the (free) Spin Sucks Community.
I will be back next week. I’m sure my intern will be, too.
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Gini Dietrich is the founder, CEO, and author of Spin Sucks, host of the Spin Sucks podcast, and author of Spin Sucks (the book). She is the creator of the PESO Model and has crafted a certification for it in partnership with Syracuse University. She has run and grown an agency for the past 15 years. She is co-author of Marketing in the Round, co-host of Inside PR, and co-host of The Agency Leadership podcast.