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Spin Sucks is Making the Switch to Postmatic

By: Danny Brown | January 18, 2016 | 
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Why Spin Sucks Should Make the Switch to PostmaticBy Danny Brown

A little while ago, I got an email from Gini Dietrich asking about Postmatic, the blog engagement solution that I use on my own blog.

Given I had been a very early user of Livefyre (the comment system Spin Sucks has used here for the last five or so years), but had stopped using it, Gini was curious as to my thought process.

She’d read the posts that I’ve published about my decision to use Postmatic, as well as posts from the likes of Josh Wilner and Tim Bonner, but she had some more questions, specifically given my long-term use of Livefyre.

So, like a good friend, I answered Gini’s questions, and she signed up for Postmatic Premium (if you’re a regular Spin Sucks reader, you’ll know she doesn’t do things by halves!).

And then she promptly forgot about switching Postmatic on. Because, you know… Gini.

So, just as a little reminder to Gini, and an introduction for you to Postmatic and why you might want to make the switch too, here’s my clog-to-the-shin recap of why Spin Sucks should move to Postmatic in 2016.

(Editor’s Note: In fairness, I didn’t forget about it. I launched the Modern Blogging Masterclass and switching was going to take a lot more time than I expected so I put it to the bottom of the priority list.)

Communication Pros Still Love Email

I don’t have access to Gini’s Google Analytics account, so I can’t look at her audience. However, given the topics as well as the comments, it’d be a fair bet to say the majority are made up of fellow communication pros.

Whether that’s PR, marketers, community managers, content marketers, I’m willing to bet the large majority of the current Spin Sucks audience are a mix of these core jobs.

And guess what’s still the number one form of communication for them?

Email.

Yep, that trusty old thing that was meant to die when social media came along.

Now, while Livefyre is a good comment plugin, it still forces people back over to the website to comment. If you’re working in an environment that has corporate firewalls, this can sometimes lead to issues.

Because Livefyre has a social component with Twitter and Facebook, firewalls set up to filter social network access can instead create issues trying to comment on a Livefyre-powered site.

Postmatic doesn’t have that issue because everything is done by email (although you can still comment via the web comment box directly—more on that later).

How Do I Leave a Comment?

Depending how you use Postmatic, there are two key ways for readers to leave a comment:

  • The blogger uses Postmatic for comments only. The visitor reads the blog post on-site, and leaves a comment. They then have the choice to tick a box to receive notifications of new replies via email. From there, they get a confirmation email advising they’re now subscribed to comments. When a new comment comes in, they hit reply to that (just as they’d hit reply to an email), type their comment, and hit send. That email becomes a public comment. Rinse and repeat.
  • The blogger uses Postmatic for email delivery of posts. A subscriber receives a new post by email, and if they want to leave a comment, they simply hit reply to the post, type their comment, and hit send. The email is now a comment on the post, and any new comments or replies get sent as email to the reader, and they rinse and repeat the process if they want to add a new comment or reply.

(Editor’s Note: This one scares me a little bit, which means you’ll get an email from us twice a day—once at in the morning and once in the afternoon. That seems like overkill. There is an option to subscribe to a weekly digest, but that means there are 10 articles in one email. Still a lot. So we’ll test it and see…but you can also tell us which you prefer.)

It’s such a beautifully simple way of engagement, you wonder why it hasn’t been done before.

The additional beauty of this approach is the hoops traditionally needed to jump through to leave a comment are dissipated in one simple plugin.

  • No need to always jump back to site to comment
  • No access issues from firewalls
  • No restrictions on tech (just try leaving a comment from your smartphone on a non-responsive or non-mobile optimized site and comment form)
  • No confusing tech (Livefyre and Disqus can often seem overpowering for some commenters)

My Poor Inbox!

For anyone worried about their inbox getting clogged up with more emails, that’s when another slick part of Postmatic kicks in.

If a blog post gets more than six comments in the same hour (or whatever number you set up in the admin area), Postmatic will pause notifications.

They’ll then send out an email advising the conversation is heating up, and it’s down to you—the subscriber—as to whether you rejoin the conversation and receive more emails, or leave it dormant.

Postmatic throttle

You can also unsubscribe from comments at any time.

It’s a nice way to put the power of comment notifications squarely in the reader’s hands, and makes the experience a more enjoyable one.

The Thoughtful Conversation Starter

One of the things I’ve always enjoyed about Spin Sucks is the feeling of an active community. Every time a post is published, you can usually guarantee there’ll be a fun and lively conversation in the comments section.

At least, it appears that way—until you dig in a little.

If you go to the Spin Sucks home page, and scroll down to the bottom where the pagination section is (the part that says Older Posts and has numbers next to it), this shows you the archives of older posts.

Click through the first couple of pages, and you’ll see that the majority of the time, the active conversations (going by comment count numbers) is when Gini posts something herself.

Other authors (including the Spin Sucks team) don’t get the same interaction and responses as Gini does.

Is this because Gini’s posts are better? Is it because Spin Sucks is inherently tied to Gini, readers only comment when it’s Gini, because it’s a name they recognize? Is it because other authors don’t encourage interaction?

It could be all of these things or none of them. Or, it could be the fact that the active comments are more snapshots of an already-invested community, and new commenters are put off by the apparent closed circle.

Note: this is just a possible reason, and not a suggestion that Spin Sucks isn’t friendly to new commenters. Far from it.

Are Comments Dead?

My own take? Livefyre isn’t fostering the same thoughtful conversations it used to, because people are so busy elsewhere on the web. Given many comments are pulled from Twitter, this would seem to back that up.

Postmatic, on the other hand, goes the opposite direction, and truly fosters thoughtful, meaningful conversation.

Jump back to the opening of this post, and the statement about the preferred outlet for PR and communication pros—email.

Because our days are spent crafting thoughtful emails for either external or internal uses, we’re already in the email mindset when it comes to conversation. It makes us comfortable, and we open up more, take more time to express ourselves, and make better points.

Web commenting rarely offers that. Read post, quick comment, out because we need to be elsewhere.

Email on the other hand?

It doesn’t matter where we are. Train, office, bar, beach, or spa, we have our smartphone and we can email to our heart’s content. And we clearly do, if results from my own blog are anything to go by.

In the seven months prior to switching to Postmatic, my average monthly comment count was 149. In the seven months after switching Postmatic on, that had jumped to 312…more than double the count.

Danny-Brown-Postmatic-stats

And it wasn’t just comment count—the comments were more in-depth, and more considered.

These were comments where people had clearly thought about the topic and what they wanted to say, versus just dropping a comment in to show appreciation for a post.

For communications pros, this is a potential goldmine of information and really in-depth crowdsourcing for either your own content, or that of your clients (including campaigns).

More than Just Comments by Email

Hopefully by now you’re starting to see why Spin Sucks would benefit more from using Postmatic (and you too, not just as a reader of this blog, but for your own, too).

But let’s say you really, really love commenting on the web version of a post, will Postmatic ruin that?

Not at all.

Postmatic is simply the conduit for comments. If used in conjunction with native WordPress comments, it doesn’t replace the comment box. It merely adds a little checkbox to get new replies by email.

However, if you’re a fan of the way Livefyre and, to some degree, Disqus looks and feels, then Postmatic has something for you in the way of their Epoch solution.

Pronounced epic, think of Epoch as the natural evolution of how all comment boxes should work. It takes the best of third-party features like social comment support (if activated), Ajax-powered refresh (for instant commenting with no page reload) and more, and adds the best of native WordPress (SEO-friendly, caching support, comment template styling).

It also offers three “flavors.”

  1. Completely, which gives it a look similar to Disqus or Jetpack Comments;
  2. Use My Typography and Colors, which replicates your theme; and
  3. Minimally, which looks to use the comment style of your theme (this may or may not work, depending on your theme’s code).

Epoch

In addition to Epoch, Postmatic also offers Optins, which are these cool email subscription boxes that you often see at the end of posts, or as fly-ins or pop-ups.

Not only do these help grow your subscriber base, but if you’re using Epoch on your blog, and someone leaves a comment, the pop-up opt-in will already have their name and email filled out. The reader just has to click the Subscribe button.

Pretty slick and frictionless way to grow your list!

Postmatic 2.0 Just Changed the Game Completely

If all this sounds like a cool solution so far, you ain’t seen nothing yet. To paraphrase The Joker, wait until you get a load of Postmatic 2.0.

Currently in Beta, Postmatic 2.0 has essentially closed the case on the best commenting and subscription mix for your blog (at least, if it’s a self-hosted WordPress one).

Now, instead of coming into a conversation late and missing the chance to share your thoughts, or missing a post because a particular day in the week was busy, Postmatic offers two very cool features that complement one another perfectly.

With Digests, you can set the date and time you wish a round-up of your most recent posts to go out, and let your subscriber choose their preferred option (daily, weekly, or monthly) in their subscription confirmation email.

So far, so every other newsletter feature, but here’s where it gets very cool.

First, Postmatic uses the design template of your blog to pull in your typography, brand colors, and H1/H2 tags, to offer a cohesive experience for your subscriber. Now, your newsletter is essentially an extension of your blog look and feel.

You can also add some introductory text, to personalize the message that goes out with your Digest.

I use it to explain the next cool feature of Postmatic 2.0, which you can read below.

When you receive a Digest, there are two options under each post excerpt: “Add to my inbox” and “view online.”

While view online is self-explanatory, the add to my inbox choice is simply awesome.

Add to my Inbox

When you select this, a new pre-populated email box opens, with instructions to Postmatic to send your chosen post to you via email. Simply hit send, and within a minute (or less) that specific post will be delivered, in full, direct to your inbox. It’s essentially how single posts are delivered currently.

With a very big difference.

Now you can see all comments currently left on that post, along with the option to reply any of these comments by hitting the reply button underneath each one.

Digest comment reply

Now if you miss a post earlier in the week or month, you’re immediately not only catching up on the post, but the discussion that took part. And instead of having to scroll through a bunch of non-connected emails for previous comments, every comment is there for you to read and reply to.

Brilliant. Simply brilliant.

Okay, Spin Sucks, Just Make the Switch Already!

I’ve just looked at the word count on this post, and I’m already nearly 2,300 words . So, maybe I should draw to a close…

I hope I’ve shared why it’s time for Spin Sucks to make the leap, and thank Livefyre for five years of great service, but times they are a-changing.

For communication pros who live inside email, it’s a no-brainer (and could also be tied to Spin Sucks Pro, but that’s another discussion altogether).

For anyone who loves thoughtful comments and a wider range of interactions, it’s a no-brainer.

For someone like Gini who thrives on her community of Crazies, as well as those who’re part of the “external community,” it’s a no-brainer.

I think you get the gist of my summary.

Be like Picard, Gini.

Make it so!

(Editor’s Note: Postmatic and Epoch are already installed here, so you can try the experience for yourself to compare to Livefyre. There also are some tweaks we’ll make this week as we hear from each of you and as we test it out ourselves. )

Let us know what you think about Postmatic!

About Danny Brown


Husband. Father. Optimist. Pragmatist. Purveyor of not settling for the status quo. Aspiring to be many things. Never says no to a good single malt.

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Danny Brown
7 months 6 days ago

Good Lord – you didn’t edit this opus! Now I feel like I should have thrown an Easter egg or two in there… 🙂

I continue to be impressed with the Postmatic solution, and looking forward to seeing what your audience makes of it, Gini.

Have at it!

Gini Dietrich
7 months 6 days ago

Oh I edited it. I added a few subheads and my own notes. But, no, I didn’t cut anything out. I got you to nearly 2,300 words with my added stuff!

Laura Petrolino
7 months 6 days ago
Danny, thank you so much for providing this tutorial to prepare everyone for their many comments on my excellent post later today. In someways I feel like this is an above and beyond prep measure—just so the community can enjoy and participate with my content to their fullest ability…but no, when I look at the greater community good, it’s clearly not. Everyone read this to prepare yourself for my post this afternoon where I talk about shoveling snow. I know you are on the edge of your seats already about this topic, and I promise to not disappoint. Come back… Read more »
Corina Manea
7 months 5 days ago

Hahaha. Boy, I can’t stop laughing.

Eden Spodek
7 months 6 days ago

Is there a TLDR version of this post? 😉 Danny’s been trying to get me to make the switch as well. So in all seriousness, I’ll be reading the whole post at some point this week.

Bill Dorman
Bill Dorman
7 months 6 days ago

Well, if Danny says it’s so, then it must be, right?

Sounds like a no-brainer the way it integrates w/ e-mail because speaking for myself, that’s still my number one form of communication. Just sayin….

Gini Dietrich
7 months 6 days ago

Who is this?

Rosemary ONeill
7 months 6 days ago

Oooh shiny. It looks pretty intuitive. And since I’m one of those people who lives in her inbox, it might be good for me!

Gini Dietrich
7 months 6 days ago

You’ll have to let me know. I’m concerned about a couple of things, but I’ll be very happy to hear what you think and make adjustments based on that.

Rosemary O’Neill
7 months 6 days ago

OK I’m replying from my email…let’s see what happens. I wonder if this style of commenting will decrease your page views on site?

Sent with Mixmax

Gini Dietrich
7 months 6 days ago

I don’t know…I’m going to keep an eye on it. But if the comments increase, I’m probably okay even if pageviews do decrease.

Nancy
7 months 6 days ago

Okay, must check it out further. Thanks Danny and Gini!

Gini Dietrich
7 months 6 days ago

<3

Anneliz Hannan
Anneliz Hannan
7 months 6 days ago
Other than having a post traumatic episode from the length of this post I am looking forward to the new format;) I have read how well this has worked for Danny and the conversation that he is able to generate. A couple of questions or notes: I notice there is no more ‘like’ button for the comments here. Sometimes I read the comments and may not have any response except to agree (or I am just lazy); I have responded to Danny’s posts at times but have not seen the comment on his blog and wondering if I am missing… Read more »
Gini Dietrich
7 months 6 days ago

And you can’t edit comments, either! I think you will just have to write “like” and be done with it.

Laura Petrolino
7 months 6 days ago

Like

Jason Lemieux
7 months 6 days ago

Hey Gini,

I just installed a comment editing plugin for you. Users can edit comments left from the front end….

That’s something nice about moving back to native WordPress commenting: you get to play with all of the awesome plugins available.

Anneliz Hannan
Anneliz Hannan
7 months 6 days ago

Like, like 😉

Jason Lemieux
7 months 6 days ago

This has been a pain point for me as well. While we all love email, sometimes I just want to let someone know that what they said was awesome and that I respect them. Like a like, or a +1. Sometime in the future I hope to build in an email command for that, as well as a button on the front end.

The end result would be that you could recognize someone, without sending an email to a dozen people in the process. It’s on the list.

Anneliz Hannan
Anneliz Hannan
7 months 6 days ago

Sounds good Jason. Thanks for responding and I do agree with Danny that this is a clean look.

Jason from Postmatic
7 months 6 days ago

Wow. Fantastic introduction Thanks, Danny. We’re delighted to have Postmatic on Spin Sucks and hope that it’s a good fit for this community.

I’m happy to stick around to answer questions and digest feedback from you all. Postmatic is rapidly evolving and as we grow to larger sites such as this we may need to make some tweaks. I’m all ears!

Jason

Josh
7 months 6 days ago

I’m biased but Postmatic has made a significant difference for my blogs.

It’s not just a matter of how it’s helped with engagement but how it has made it easier for me to stay engaged too.

I’m usually racing from place to place and project to project. Working from my inbox is a natural extension of my day.

Kate
7 months 6 days ago
1) Chronological comments! Yes! Unless there are a hundred+ comments, I always read “oldest first” to make sure I’m caught up to the conversation before adding my thoughts. It’s a tiny thing, but not having to reorder the comments is nice! 2) Very often I’ll read the first Spin Sucks post from my phone. Since I haven’t memorized my Livefyre password it was a pain to comment on them, so I’d either not comment or comment on facebook (see, Gini!). This looks like it will be way more mobile-friendly than Livefyre. 3) The Crazies will definitely find a way to… Read more »
Jason Lemieux
7 months 6 days ago

Thanks, Kate! I’m psyched to see your enthusiasm.

You’re right that not having a simple like button will force people to write a longer comment… but it also may give them the excuse to just remain silent. We *need* to find a fix for that…. and one that doesn’t trigger an email.

Thinking….

Gini Dietrich
7 months 6 days ago

Checking out commenting from the blog post in my email.

Jon
7 months 6 days ago

Supercool ! It’s about time someone brought something new to the commenting section of blogs. As more and more disappear, it’s great to see a company (and SpinSucks) trying something different. I am curious to see if it promotes more engagement given that it will be so much easier just to hit reply and jump into the conversation.

Gini Dietrich
7 months 6 days ago

I hope so! We shall see…but Danny says his comments more than doubled when he installed it.

Eden Spodek
7 months 6 days ago

Oh, your comments have grown alright. I’ve got the unthreaded emails to prove it. 😉 I think I need to make a folder for Spin Sucks’ comments now.

*Eden Spodek Inc.* Digital Communications Strategy EdenSpodek.com | @EdenSpodek | LinkedIn

Kate
7 months 6 days ago

I just marked them to go to the “social” tab in gmail. It’s a fairly quiet folder in my email, so it’s the best spot for me to park them for now.

Gini Dietrich
7 months 5 days ago

Ha! That’s what I did. Otherwise I’d go insane.

Eden Spodek
7 months 5 days ago

No kidding!

*Eden Spodek Inc.* Digital Communications Strategy EdenSpodek.com | @EdenSpodek | LinkedIn

Corina Manea
7 months 5 days ago

I managed to read all the comments! OMG! I very much like Postmatic. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’ll go read Laura’s post 🙂

Eden Spodek
7 months 5 days ago

Maybe you can write a summary for us. 🙂

Karen Wilson
7 months 5 days ago

I’ve been really enjoying the experience commenting on Danny’s blog since he installed Postmatic. I miss tagging a little, but getting an email with all the comments in it and replying to it to comment back is definitely good.

I’m pretty picky about how much email I get and Postmatic hasn’t been an issue for me at all.

Ken Jacobs
7 months 5 days ago

Here’s the critical question: Will Postmatic still let me make fun of @GiniDietrich here on Spin Sucks?!

Paula Kiger
7 months 5 days ago

In what may be my shortest comment ever, HMMM. It’ll be interesting to see how this goes! Curious what happens to those of us who subscribed using that method that sent the new posts out via our twitter accounts (as opposed to us getting them via our inboxes). Perhaps it has been answered here and I haven’t gotten to it yet. THX.

Danny Brown
7 months 5 days ago

One thing I would suggest is filling out the Headline part in the Epoch settings. This could be something like “Add your own” or “Share yours”, and is a hyperlinked invite to jump straight to the comment box and leave a comment.

It’s a nice option for posts that have a lot of comments, and the reader might not want to go through them first before leaving a comment of their own. 🙂

Eden Spodek
7 months 4 days ago

I had a brainstorm this morning. For clients who aren’t digitally savvy or comfortable with WordPress and need others to help the with their publishing, Postmatic offers a great way for them to respond to comments without relying on others to help them. I have a client who will benefit from this and as we’re in the last stretch of developing her new website, I’ve asked the developer if he’ll install it for her. Fortunately for her, she doesn’t have as many comments a Spin Sucks. 😉

If this has been said already, I missed it. Oops!

Jason Lemieux
7 months 4 days ago
Hey Eden, Right. We definitely built Postmatic to keep the technology bar low. It’s a success in that way but we also struggle with helping people understand exactly what they are engaging with and what the privacy ramifications are. It’s not uncommon for someone to send in a comment thinking that they are sending a personal email to the post author. My Dad has done it one or two times on our site. It’s usually just cute and endearing… but something we think about a lot regardless. We wrote a blog post a while back which might be of interest… Read more »
Eden Spodek
7 months 4 days ago

Thanks Jason! I’d never suggest a solution to a client without explaining what’s entailed especially when it involves privacy and other issues of importance.

*Eden Spodek Inc.* Digital Communications Strategy EdenSpodek.com | @EdenSpodek | LinkedIn

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